Why do people call bands like Fall Out Boy and Good charlotte "Sellouts"? (hardcore, fan)

tjtech12 · 04-08-2008, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by teshadoh

The world would be much better if everyone would just agree that punk died in the mid '80's. That doesn't even mean I don't like any post mid 80's 'punk' bands, Sleater Kinney & Fugazi awesome at what they do - but I would consider them more Indie Rock.

90's Indie Rock, 80's Hardcore / Underground are the direct descendants of punk. Any other band that simulates their sound & look are doing so in nostalgia or at best homage. I won't even say they suck, are sell outs, or any negative terms - but the post mid 80's punk bands are performing in a vacuam far removed from what punk WAS.

You can bands influenced by rockabilly, psychedelica, bands influenced by prog-rock, bands influenced by new wave - but those genres are deeply rooted in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's respectavely. Otherwise, those too are ancient genres that can influence bands later, but those bands do not belong in the same genre. They are 'new', 'post' or 'revival'.

Dude, Get your head out of your ass. "Punk" can't die. you are completely ignoring skatepunk, hardcore, ska-punk, etc. While those bands aren't original at all, they sure as hell aren't doing it for the money.

jacklovezhimself · 04-08-2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tjtech12

Dude, Get your head out of your ass. "Punk" can't die. you are completely ignoring skatepunk, hardcore, ska-punk, etc. While those bands aren't original at all, they sure as hell aren't doing it for the money.

this is true but there are no "skate-punk" or "ska-punk" bands that can even come close to comparing to successful punk bands think about it......

DJ Phoenix · 11-08-2008, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jacklovezhimself

this is true but there are no "skate-punk" or "ska-punk" bands that can even come close to comparing to successful punk bands think about it......

Sure there are: The Selecter is a great "Ska punk" band.

the group "Madness" was originally(they still might be) a "ska" band, and they were HUGE w/: "Our House" in the '80s.

Also, believe it or not, No Doubt started off as a "ska" band out of cali(LB I think), and became successful as a more pop band. While I think ND is garbage, I have to give it to them for reinventing themselves as a pop band.

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Not Fall Out Boy :/

No one knew who they were until that "We're going down, down blah blah blah" CD came out...

And MANY of us wish we hadn't today.

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(They had another CD before that. That no one has really heard of. Meaning, not always mainstream...)

& they probably didn't sell 5 copies of it? their dogs probably bought a copy to cheer them up?

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But they still suck.

Can't argue with you there. They do indeed SUCK.

FaSho · 11-08-2008, 07:06 AM

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Sure there are: The Selecter is a great "Ska punk" band.

The point was none of those bands were as popular as punk bands.

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& they probably didn't sell 5 copies of it? their dogs probably bought a copy to cheer them up?

FOB's fist album was pretty good imo, didn't sound much like their stuff now.