Ramones vs. The Clash

Rickenbacker · 09-17-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Worse? Rickenbacker is right on the money. The Ramones were a bunch of unskilled, lower class schmucks from Queens just throwing it all out there. Some of it was great, most of it sucked, but they didn't really seem to give a shit. If the point of punk was anyone can get up on stage and play then the Ramones were it's most shining example.

Fixed.

Glad we're in agreement though. I was thinking I was crazy.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 09-17-2009, 04:43 PM

I always thought the best punk bands were the ones that were more literate and had an art school vibe about them, and did actually have something to say.

For me The Ramones were a great Rock n Roll band but shouldn't be anywhere near a list of greatest punk bands.

Rickenbacker · 09-17-2009, 04:44 PM

Can you drop some names so I can make sure I understand where you're coming from?

**Janszoon** · 09-17-2009, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

I always thought the best punk bands were the ones that were more literate and had an art school vibe about them, and did actually have something to say.

For me The Ramones were a great Rock n Roll band but shouldn't be anywhere near a list of greatest punk bands.

I agree but I'm just talking about who is most "punk". In terms of who I like the best I'd easily take a band like Television any day over a band like the Ramones.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 09-17-2009, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickenbacker

Can you drop some names so I can make sure I understand where you're coming from?

Yes just read any of the posts where I bore people senseless about how great post punk is.

Rickenbacker · 09-17-2009, 05:06 PM

I assumed you meant post punk type music but I wasn't sure if I was missing something. I agree though, I'd take something like Talking Heads or the Fall and that jazz over most of the more punk oriented "punk" music I've heard, if that makes sense.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 09-17-2009, 05:09 PM

The only real 'punk' punk band I like is The Damned, and even they ditched it to become more of a goth band.

storymilo · 09-17-2009, 06:05 PM

My problem with The Ramones is.... they bore me. I don't care if they "represent punk" they're music to me is just not very enjoyable. I would much rather listen to The Clash, The Cure etc even if they are less punky only because they're music is more enjoyable

**Janszoon** · 09-17-2009, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by storymilo

My problem with The Ramones is.... they bore me. I don't care if they "represent punk" they're music to me is just not very enjoyable. I would much rather listen to The Clash, The Cure etc even if they are less punky only because they're music is more enjoyable

Well... I'd rather listen to those bands too. But I do enjoy the Ramones from time to time.

storymilo · 09-17-2009, 06:12 PM

So do I. They're not awful, just kind of boring to me. Why are we arguing again..?

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09-17-2009, 04:43 PM	#202 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I always thought the best punk bands were the ones that were more literate and had an art school vibe about them, and did actually have something to say. For me The Ramones were a great Rock n Roll band but shouldn't be anywhere near a list of greatest punk bands. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

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09-17-2009, 05:06 PM	#206 (permalink)
Rickenbacker / Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Conn Posts: 1,338	I assumed you meant post punk type music but I wasn't sure if I was missing something. I agree though, I'd take something like Talking Heads or the Fall and that jazz over most of the more punk oriented "punk" music I've heard, if that makes sense. __________________ last.fm rym Talk About the Passion - R.E.M.'s Discography Reviewed

09-17-2009, 05:09 PM	#207 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	The only real 'punk' punk band I like is The Damned, and even they ditched it to become more of a goth band. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

09-17-2009, 06:05 PM	#208 (permalink)
storymilo Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,845	My problem with The Ramones is.... they bore me. I don't care if they "represent punk" they're music to me is just not very enjoyable. I would much rather listen to The Clash, The Cure etc even if they are less punky only because they're music is more enjoyable

09-17-2009, 06:12 PM	#210 (permalink)
storymilo Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,845	So do I. They're not awful, just kind of boring to me. Why are we arguing again..?