Ramones vs. The Clash

Macneil1 · 10-13-2009, 08:00 AM

The Clash, by an absolute mile. Lyrically better, musically better and they were British :P.

JanieJones · 10-19-2009, 03:51 PM

The Clash by far. The Clash had intelligent music, the Ramones weren't as deep. I do love the Ramones tho. "Judy is a Punk" is one of my all time favorites.

loveissucide · 10-19-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Far Beyond Driven

Every time I hear that song I just wanna punch something. I hate how everyone always says they're one of the greatest punk bands ever. Their lyrics were good but their music is hard to listen to, it just sucks. I HATE THE SEX PISTOLS.

As Stooges clones go,I'll agree they weren't much cop.Public Image Limited were a much better Lydon vehicle.
On topic,Clash hands down. I find the Ramones too much of the same, and I'm really impressed by how The Clash seamlessly embraced any music they felt like through their career.

Shake · 01-21-2010, 10:05 AM

The Ramones were sort of a one trick pony. Sure they' played good punk, but I can only listen to about 3 or 4 songs before I feel like I know what's coming next and get bored. The Clash on the other hand flawlessly blended so many different genres that I can listen to them all day and not get bored. Not to mention Joe Strummer's work with the Mescaleros as well.

Clash all the way!

indietrash3 · 01-21-2010, 11:16 AM

The Clash are horrible. they have one semi-decent song and a bucket full of hypocrisy.

Ramones are kind of meh. trend-hoppers. but okay music. they get my vote.

**Janszoon** · 01-21-2010, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by indietrash3

The Clash are horrible. they have one semi-decent song and a bucket full of hypocrisy.

Ramones are kind of meh. trend-hoppers. but okay music. they get my vote.

Say what? On both counts.

duga · 01-21-2010, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Say what? On both counts.

my thoughts exactly.

explain yo self

million dollar basher · 01-21-2010, 04:48 PM

Yeah, I don't see the merit in comments like "The Clash sucks" without any kind of defense. The bald, honest truth is that Joe Strummer's artistic prowess outmatched that of Joey Ramone. I think that both are very desrving of whatever "countercultural" celebrity they've been awarded, but I truly believe that Joe Strummer was a far greater creative mind than any of the members of the Ramones. The Clash had versatility and vitality on their side, and Joe Strummer's social conscience definitely made itself present in the Clash's music. They get my vote without question, though I do acknowlege the importance of the Ramones.

Oh yeah, and "Nevermind the Bollocks" is quite possibly the greatest seminal punk album of all time.

Johnny_Rotter · 01-22-2010, 12:41 AM

I agree with the above, The Clash wrote much more artistically sophisticated songs, incorporating reggae, dub, jazz and other genres into thier songwriting. The Ramones are great to, but their sound never really evolved, just simple 8th note pop rythems.

That being said as someone who grew up skateboarding to Hardcore I wouldn't even consider The Clash punk by today's standards. There more like an alternative rock band, while the Ramones with songs like "were a happy family" still sound punk.

indietrash3 · 01-22-2010, 02:17 AM

incorporating reggae = musical genius now?

also no they're not a punk band. they're major label rebellious anarchyists. **** them. put on some Rudimentary Peni and be done with these rock stars.

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01-21-2010, 10:05 AM	#244 (permalink)
Shake blerg Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: The Great White North Posts: 137	The Ramones were sort of a one trick pony. Sure they' played good punk, but I can only listen to about 3 or 4 songs before I feel like I know what's coming next and get bored. The Clash on the other hand flawlessly blended so many different genres that I can listen to them all day and not get bored. Not to mention Joe Strummer's work with the Mescaleros as well. Clash all the way! __________________ Bloodtrocuted

01-21-2010, 11:16 AM	#245 (permalink)
indietrash3 Groupie Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 45	The Clash are horrible. they have one semi-decent song and a bucket full of hypocrisy. Ramones are kind of meh. trend-hoppers. but okay music. they get my vote. __________________ Clickable link removed by mod.

01-22-2010, 02:17 AM	#250 (permalink)
indietrash3 Groupie Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 45	incorporating reggae = musical genius now? also no they're not a punk band. they're major label rebellious anarchyists. **** them. put on some Rudimentary Peni and be done with these rock stars. __________________ Clickable link removed by mod.

10-13-2009, 08:00 AM	#241 (permalink)
Macneil1 Groupie Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 13	The Clash, by an absolute mile. Lyrically better, musically better and they were British :P.

10-19-2009, 03:51 PM	#242 (permalink)
JanieJones Groupie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: stuck in suburbia Posts: 4	The Clash by far. The Clash had intelligent music, the Ramones weren't as deep. I do love the Ramones tho. "Judy is a Punk" is one of my all time favorites.

01-21-2010, 04:48 PM	#248 (permalink)
million dollar basher Music Addict Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: trapped in a basement Posts: 184	Yeah, I don't see the merit in comments like "The Clash sucks" without any kind of defense. The bald, honest truth is that Joe Strummer's artistic prowess outmatched that of Joey Ramone. I think that both are very desrving of whatever "countercultural" celebrity they've been awarded, but I truly believe that Joe Strummer was a far greater creative mind than any of the members of the Ramones. The Clash had versatility and vitality on their side, and Joe Strummer's social conscience definitely made itself present in the Clash's music. They get my vote without question, though I do acknowlege the importance of the Ramones. Oh yeah, and "Nevermind the Bollocks" is quite possibly the greatest seminal punk album of all time.

01-22-2010, 12:41 AM	#249 (permalink)
Johnny_Rotter Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 15	I agree with the above, The Clash wrote much more artistically sophisticated songs, incorporating reggae, dub, jazz and other genres into thier songwriting. The Ramones are great to, but their sound never really evolved, just simple 8th note pop rythems. That being said as someone who grew up skateboarding to Hardcore I wouldn't even consider The Clash punk by today's standards. There more like an alternative rock band, while the Ramones with songs like "were a happy family" still sound punk.