Ramones vs. The Clash

Seltzer · 08-20-2009, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by asshat

the clash rips off-the who, bo diddley, sex pistols,bob dylan, ska groups

...yes they played an eclectic blend of music, but all of the music they played had existed before, and most of their songs are genre exercises-- most wedding bands know how to play a bit of everything.

I've never understood the argument that music is unoriginal as soon as it has any discernible influence - all music is a product of what came before it and is original because it draws from existing music in a unique way. You might as well call Brian Eno unoriginal for ripping off John Cage and minimalist art, King Crimson unoriginal for ripping off classical music, Funkadelic unoriginal for ripping off Hendrix and Hendrix unoriginal for ripping off blues artists.

And I don't see how incorporating reggae means that the Clash ripped off ska groups. If you're going to accuse the Clash of ripping off the Sex Pistols, you have to remember that the Clash did the reggae/dub + punk thing before PIL.

ExopoliticalIdealist · 08-20-2009, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by franzfergidon

:|

What do you mean, rip offs? Surely they're not as bad as Coldplay with ripping off things...
EDIT: Or Oasis for that matter...

They are complete ripoffs of the Ramones themselves,the ramones were an act that didn't care if it came out perfect,the clash were just imitators, I mean really.

And what does this have to do with coldplay or Oasis?

and franzfergidon your name's sounds awfully alot like an imitation of a band trying to be something there not(hint hint).

either way, I'm not here to argue, just don't pick fights with a random person who is entitled to their own opinion.

franzfergidon · 08-20-2009, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ExopoliticalIdealist

They are complete ripoffs of the Ramones themselves,the ramones were an act that didn't care if it came out perfect,the clash were just imitators, I mean really.

And what does this have to do with coldplay or Oasis?

and franzfergidon your name's sounds awfully alot like an imitation of a band trying to be something there not(hint hint).

either way, I'm not here to argue, just don't pick fights with a random person who is entitled to their own opinion.

I... wasn't picking a fight. Awesome.

ExopoliticalIdealist · 08-21-2009, 12:04 PM

Hey,no..bad,don't flip the script!!

franzfergidon · 08-21-2009, 06:01 PM

Uh... I wasn't trying to start a fight! I'm sorry if I came across that way though :/

ExopoliticalIdealist · 08-22-2009, 03:17 PM

Don't be, i apologize. btw "One armed scissor" is a great song.

jtwilliams · 09-05-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing

The Sex Pistols do NOT suck

I have to second this. The Pistols are better than people know, they just dont give them a chance.

Seragon Ripper · 09-07-2009, 08:00 PM

I say the ramones

Antonio · 09-07-2009, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jtwilliams

I have to second this. The Pistols are better than people know, they just dont give them a chance.

true, i listened to Never Mind The Bollocks and it was alot better than i expected.

Grunge_Junkie · 09-10-2009, 12:05 PM

The Clash is 10x better than the Ramones just because they don't sound the same in every single song. Also Joe Strummer was a better singer than Joey Ramone.

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08-21-2009, 06:01 PM	#185 (permalink)
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Grunge_Junkie The War on Errorism Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: tucson Posts: 285	The Clash is 10x better than the Ramones just because they don't sound the same in every single song. Also Joe Strummer was a better singer than Joey Ramone. __________________ http://www.last.fm/user/grunge_junkie

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ExopoliticalIdealist Groupie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In my head Posts: 19	Hey,no..bad,don't flip the script!!

08-22-2009, 03:17 PM	#186 (permalink)
ExopoliticalIdealist Groupie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In my head Posts: 19	Don't be, i apologize. btw "One armed scissor" is a great song.