No, not really. I'll talk with you though. Have you ever listened to Tragedy? They formed out of His Hero is Gone (and some other less cool bands like Deathreat) and they're not as good but they're still worth a listen and better than most bands. Nausea is great too if you haven't heard them.

i listen to some crust, but not a whole lot.
really like ekkaia.

Interesting, I prefer Tragedy to HHIG i think.. the self-titled album is really really good, but then I probably need to listen to more HHIG.. I must admit I havent heard Nausea (heard of them, but not heard them..) What would you recommend to download?

Ekkaia are incredible.. perfect blend of crust and screamo I love it.

By Nausea I'd get the Punk Terrorist Anthology Volume 1 and if you want something after that get Volume 2.

just got elil and owsla by fall of efrafa earlier, been listening to them all day. great stuff.

Yes! They are indeed incredible. :D

Ive had a good week for music.. got into Ballast, Post Regiment, Battle of Disarm, Riistetyt..

Metal urban is an electro anarcho French punk band.

MySpace.com - Metal Urbain - Paris, Ile-de-France - Electro / Punk / Rock - www.myspace.com/metalurbain

YouTube - Metal Urbain - Panik

Suprised no one mentioned Rudimentary Peni! not to mention others like Alternative, Dirt, Exit-stance, Iconoclast, Icons of Filth, Omega Tribe, Resist and Exist, Subhumans, Chumbawumba (yea i kno)and Another Destructive System (ADS) <----------ANARCHO


Amebix, Antisect, Antischism, Anti-product, Assuck, Axegrinder, Black Amy Jacket, Caustic Christ, Contravene, Destroy, Disrupt, Doom, Driller Killer, Dystopia Electro Hippies , GISM, Hangover Overdose, Chosen By God, Hellbastard, Hellkrusher, Misery, Mob47, Resist and Exist,Sore Throat, Witch Hunt,<-----CRUST


Anal ****, Anarchus, Extreme Noise Terror, Magrudergrind, Mass Grave, Napalm Death, Phobia, Plutocracy, Pretty Little Flowers, Terrorizer,Total ****ing Destruction, Warsore and Wasteoid<--------Grindcore



My Two Cents :P

This was some of my bread and butter back when I was in high school. My all-time favorite would have to be State of Fear. They were from Minneapolis, but had a definite Scandanavian sound. They had Jay Stiles, from probably my second favorite, Disrupt, and Jon from Deformed Conscience on dual vocals. Amazing. Only sorry that I never got to see them live... *sigh*

disrupt is way sick and same with state of fear.

but if you guys are looking for some good crust bands, i would say go with ISKRA, nux vomica, Question, bread and water, order of the vulture, Doom siren just to name a few

Does any one have the lyrics to ISKRA's
WOLF OF WINTER??

personaly speaking. I dont really like aus rotten or Crass. cuz first getting in to punk and all that ****. i saw everyone with crass or aus rotten shirts, so my expectations were really high. So when heard both those bands i was not very please. But i give aus rotten props, for basically starting crust.

lol, what?

Deviated Instinct and Axegrinder kick arse like a blunt instrument. Dystopia is the darkest, ugliest and heaviest crust ever inflicted on mankind. Catharsis - Passion is my favorite album.

FOAD by Darkthrone being a good example of the connection. Aside from the lyrics, early Mayhem was quite crusty.

Crass is one of my favourite bands and Aus Rotten and Discharge are great too

I like a lot of anarcho punk/hardcore band(MDC, Dead Kennedys, Reagan Youth, D.O.A., etc.)

Rudimentary Peni was great!

Was?

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...Zya9Uw&cad=rja

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meh. compared to their early stuff, this was pretty bad.

That can be said for most bands. The difference being that this album was better then 85 percent of the crap that came out that year. Blinko's voice has changed noticeably.

Yeah, many of those old punk bands are just dreadful now, putting out terrible albums.

Was!
I have only heard the two eps and Death Church that was good.
Cacophony wasn't that great.

If you say so. The catastrophe lp from 82 is probably one of their best. I also thought Pope adrian and Echoes of anguish was pretty awesome. And everyone says the same tired thing about RP I like both of those records, way to be original.

Doom
His Hero Is Gone
From Ashes Rise
Tragedy
Dystopia
Driller Killer
Totalitär
Skitsystem
Wolfbrigade
Disfear

some of my favorites.

I'm sorry I haven't heard any of the records,and that my taste doesn't fit yours.

Well in your defense your taste does fit mine as you enjoyed the ep's and death church. I was merely pointing out that the the live catastrophe record and their ensuing records after death church and ep were pretty good also. Cacophony was kind of a pile of ****. So we did in fact agree on the majority of your opinion. :shycouch:

"Cacophony" is a great record. You guys are crazy.

I thought it was the beginning of Blinko's trip to the funny farm. It was disjointed and sounded like he blended it together from tidbits of songs. I'm mostly alone in thought with my friends on this. The general consensus was that it was a Good album from them, but i find it tiresome to listen to. I do own it however.

I like it for that reason. It is a testament to Nick's insanity. It is disjointed and all that... but it is raw human emotion as well. No pretention, nothing.. it is vivid, scary and real. There is to me an element of human nature at it's finest. It is like a trip into Nick's brain. It is weird, and strange.. but it is real. Maybe part of it for me is experiencing mental illness similar to Nick's.. and it makes more sense to me in that regard.

But I think it is a great evolution as well. The addition of Death Rock in the sound was good.

Yeah between my friends and I its a consensus that he was going through some very heavy stuff during the recording of that album. It certainly wasn't pretentious, Blinko always talks from the heart and its always very heavy. He certainly went a different path with that album, and i can respect your opinion as you explained it very well. I also noted the death rock slant in a few songs, which turned out to be the better of the music on that album IMO.

I look at it like I would say Wesley Willis, Larry "Wild Man" Fisher or to a degree even say Daniel Johnston. To people who do not know the history or mental state of the artist making it, it may just seem like a total mess... it borders on the outsider art. But to know those people and their mindframe it makes perfect sense in the context it should be heard, but taken out of context, it will just seem bad I suppose.

I remember playing this song by Wesley Willis for some people in the health care field who work with people with mental illness.


Anyways, I have had a fair bit of them all be taken back by this one. One even said "I think everybody in the field should listen to this, for it could really help them understand mental illness and the way these people think. This should be something they all hear and hopefully take something from and maybe if they did we could work so much harder with them, because many are not understood like they should be"

That amazed me, to hear somebody say that, to me was like... I agree. Mental Illness is something a lot are still in the dark about.. and listening to this song, or any of the artists i discussed could be good for them.

Pretty strange song, It certainly lends itself to being the voice of someone mentally ill. I also try to envision the path of a song and the creative ideas and input behind it, always found it very interesting, especially with alot of the Grateful Dead stuff i used to listen to on a daily basis. Pretty interesting stuff, I appreciate the discussion its been educational.