Crossover thrash appreciation thread

Johnny_Rotter · 04-02-2010, 01:28 AM

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Violent & Funky · 04-02-2010, 11:12 AM

How am I supposed to contribute when you mention Suicidal Tendencies in the first post?

TravisBickle · 04-02-2010, 03:20 PM

One of the first bands to blend hardcore punk and thrash, “Speak English Or Die” is often regarded as a classic for thrashers, speedsters and crossover lovers and rightfully so.

Starting out as pretty much a pure hardcore punk band on their first EP and evolving into more of a hybrid the name Fearless Iranians From Hell alone just screams for attention and is based around a satirical take on modern politics taken from an Islamic extremist/terrorist point of view. Crossover thrash that was truly meant to provoke and offend. I couldn’t find anything from their “Holy War” album so the relentless opener to “Die For Allah” will just have to do…

Perhaps leaning a bit more to the metal side of things as far as crossover bands go these guys were full of raw energy and sick riffs that any self-respecting thrasher should find almost impossible to not bang their head to. “Game Over” is ridiculously good.

Crossover full of sarcasm, provocation and dark humour a la the almighty Pete Steele. “Jesus Hitler” has without a doubt some of the funniest lyrics in metal and though as thrashy as can be still has slower Sabbath-y type passages reminiscent of Pete’s later work with Type O Negative…

“Hear me my fellow Nazolics
Come join the Neotheofacists
Keep der race pure practice eugenics
And swear to the holy swazafix

I have returned
Reich und Roll!”

Ignore the later garbage these guys spewed out, Prong were once a quality thrash crossover band.

jackhammer · 04-02-2010, 05:33 PM

Prong are still damn quality

From 2007:

They had more in common with Hardcore than straight Punk which is essentially what Crossover is. An amalgamation of Hardcore and Thrash and not neccessarily Punk.

I have plenty to add.

Despite the distinctly metal cover that the band hated, Immaculate Deception is a bona fide classic.

Posted this one just a few days ago. Even the album cover is the epitome of the scene although die hard fans hated the fact that the band incorporated Thrash influences from this album onwards.

Beast on my back is another phenomenal album with a huge melting pot of ideas. A piano opening track? It works and this band deserved a lot more kudos.

Mucky Pup were a band that were a little more humorous than many of their counterparts but they had some great riffs.

Despite a huge similarity to an Exodus track (know which one?) AF are absolute legends.

A special mention should got to Void who were one of the first bands to marry these genres even if it was primitive. Are they a Punk band or are they Metal?

Engine · 04-02-2010, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

I have plenty to add.

I was eagerly awaiting what you had to say on the topic. Hardcore/Thrash (or 'crossover') is some of my favorite music from those years too.

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Despite the distinctly metal cover that the band hated, Immaculate Deception is a bona fide classic.

Maybe that's not the best example but I really truly love those horribly drawn cartoony album covers.

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A special mention should got to Void who were one of the first bands to marry these genres even if it was primitive. Are they a Punk band or are they Metal?

The Void I know is most definitely strictly Hardcore (harDCore in fact - maybe all those bands were a little metal). But I'm only talking about their split LP with the band Faith. I heard Void made some other 'more metal' album but I haven't heard it.

Here's my contribution..

jackhammer · 04-02-2010, 06:13 PM

CoC were a great band as well as the first two Cro Mags albums. Void made an E.P 'Potion For Bad Dreams' which was never officially released that is well worth checking out and adds credence to the Metal crossover sound I mentioned.

Engine · 04-02-2010, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

CoC were a great band as well as the first two Cro Mags albums. Void made an E.P 'Potion For Bad Dreams' which was never officially released that is well worth checking out and adds credence to the Metal crossover sound I mentioned.

O wow - do you have it? I know it wasn't released by Dischord - other than that I have only heard legends..

jackhammer · 04-02-2010, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine

O wow - do you have it? I know it wasn't released by Dischord - other than that I have only heard legends..

Of course I do! PM on way.

Engine · 04-02-2010, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TravisBickle

Starting out as pretty much a pure hardcore punk band on their first EP and evolving into more of a hybrid the name Fearless Iranians From Hell alone just screams for attention and is based around a satirical take on modern politics taken from an Islamic extremist/terrorist point of view. Crossover thrash that was truly meant to provoke and offend. I couldn’t find anything from their “Holy War” album so the relentless opener to “Die For Allah” will just have to do…

Wow - that's great. I had heard the name of the band before but never listened. Quality!

TravisBickle · 04-02-2010, 10:38 PM

^^Glad you like it! They really never seemed to garner the attention they deserved…

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

Despite a huge similarity to an Exodus track (know which one?) AF are absolute legends.

I think this might be the one you're referring to...

That main riff does sound EXTREMELY similar at least..

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jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	Prong are still damn quality From 2007: They had more in common with Hardcore than straight Punk which is essentially what Crossover is. An amalgamation of Hardcore and Thrash and not neccessarily Punk. I have plenty to add. Despite the distinctly metal cover that the band hated, Immaculate Deception is a bona fide classic. Posted this one just a few days ago. Even the album cover is the epitome of the scene although die hard fans hated the fact that the band incorporated Thrash influences from this album onwards. Beast on my back is another phenomenal album with a huge melting pot of ideas. A piano opening track? It works and this band deserved a lot more kudos. Mucky Pup were a band that were a little more humorous than many of their counterparts but they had some great riffs. Despite a huge similarity to an Exodus track (know which one?) AF are absolute legends. A special mention should got to Void who were one of the first bands to marry these genres even if it was primitive. Are they a Punk band or are they Metal? __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

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jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	CoC were a great band as well as the first two Cro Mags albums. Void made an E.P 'Potion For Bad Dreams' which was never officially released that is well worth checking out and adds credence to the Metal crossover sound I mentioned. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

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TravisBickle Groupie Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 34	One of the first bands to blend hardcore punk and thrash, “Speak English Or Die” is often regarded as a classic for thrashers, speedsters and crossover lovers and rightfully so. Starting out as pretty much a pure hardcore punk band on their first EP and evolving into more of a hybrid the name Fearless Iranians From Hell alone just screams for attention and is based around a satirical take on modern politics taken from an Islamic extremist/terrorist point of view. Crossover thrash that was truly meant to provoke and offend. I couldn’t find anything from their “Holy War” album so the relentless opener to “Die For Allah” will just have to do… Perhaps leaning a bit more to the metal side of things as far as crossover bands go these guys were full of raw energy and sick riffs that any self-respecting thrasher should find almost impossible to not bang their head to. “Game Over” is ridiculously good. Crossover full of sarcasm, provocation and dark humour a la the almighty Pete Steele. “Jesus Hitler” has without a doubt some of the funniest lyrics in metal and though as thrashy as can be still has slower Sabbath-y type passages reminiscent of Pete’s later work with Type O Negative… “Hear me my fellow Nazolics Come join the Neotheofacists Keep der race pure practice eugenics And swear to the holy swazafix I have returned Reich und Roll!” Ignore the later garbage these guys spewed out, Prong were once a quality thrash crossover band.