Crossover thrash appreciation thread

littlebatty · 04-03-2010, 11:29 AM

siekiera is good

hip hop bunny hop · 04-07-2010, 01:52 PM

Carnivore is a band I have mixed feelings about. The lyrics are fun and I like their anti-hippie agenda, but the musicianship bores me. Mediocre riffs stretched out for a minute too long, and a rhythm section that doesn't seem to do anything interesting... Steele's vocal stylings certainly don't help either.

Cryptic Slaughter's out put is uneven, but when they're on it's fantastic. Fast, decent riffs, and an excellent sense of rhythm.

Engine · 04-08-2010, 08:01 PM

^! There's everything I like about the subgenre: metal meets hardcore seamlessly (heavy on the hardcore) and excellent cover artwork.

Dietrootbear · 04-09-2010, 06:51 PM

How far back does crossover go?

More than just the term, I mean.

Engine · 04-09-2010, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dietrootbear

How far back does crossover go?

More than just the term, I mean.

early-1980s A.D.

sidewinder · 04-12-2010, 12:48 PM

I was a big fan of Suicidal Tendencies, Prong and S.O.D. back in the day, great stuff. 'You Can't Bring Me Down' is sofa king awesome. That's probably the song and video that got me into them, actually...ahh the memories. I never really explored too much else from the genre, though, but I am familiar with most of the names. Corrosion of Conformity was another one I listened to, but they were kind of hit or miss for me. I'll check out some of these vids later.

hip hop bunny hop · 04-12-2010, 04:33 PM

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^! There's everything I like about the subgenre: metal meets hardcore seamlessly (heavy on the hardcore) and excellent cover artwork.

Cryptic Slaughter are fairly influential, or so it seems. The way the songs go from fast to faster than hell, with short listenable sections.... it seems to be the same formula Napam Death used on Scum.

Are there any current crossover bands, or are the new bands who play in the style now called "Powerviolence'?

~~CAPTAIN CAVEMAN~~ · 04-12-2010, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

Are there any current crossover bands, or are the new bands who play in the style now called "Powerviolence'?

PV is completely distinct from crossover, PV evolved out of the fast hardcore (thrashcore) of stuff like early DRI, siege, capitalist casualties, etc., but it uses more extreme tempo, generally: really fast hardcore alternating with sludge metal (instead of the mid-tempo thrash metal elements of crossover), essentially, and a lot of PV also uses noise elements. i'm guessing the confusion arises mainly because bands like DRI and cryptic slaughter put out both crossover thrash and thrashcore material, and because early PV is generally closer to thrashcore than newer PV is. and that isn't even touching on the ideological differences between PV and crossover, which are pretty big.

so in short, no, modern crossover bands aren't called powerviolence... at least not by those who understand both. the simplest way to put it is that PV is more extreme than crossover. its more similar to grindcore. best i illustrate by example i suppose, you just have to listen to it and you figure it out.

modern PV

modern crossover (which i am somewhat less familiar with than PV so excuse the uninspired example)

TheDailyBuzzard · 04-12-2010, 08:33 PM

Municipal Waste is fantastic! They have some east coast dates coming up.. definitely check them out.

hip hop bunny hop · 04-28-2010, 02:04 PM

Toxic Holocaust are crossover? They're just another band reviving the sound of metal on the cusp of the extreme take over; the sound of early Sodom, in other words.

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Engine air quote Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: pollen & mold Posts: 3,108	^! There's everything I like about the subgenre: metal meets hardcore seamlessly (heavy on the hardcore) and excellent cover artwork. __________________ Like an arrow, I was only passing through.

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sidewinder Engorged Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,536	I was a big fan of Suicidal Tendencies, Prong and S.O.D. back in the day, great stuff. 'You Can't Bring Me Down' is sofa king awesome. That's probably the song and video that got me into them, actually...ahh the memories. I never really explored too much else from the genre, though, but I am familiar with most of the names. Corrosion of Conformity was another one I listened to, but they were kind of hit or miss for me. I'll check out some of these vids later. __________________ last.fm \| my collection on RYM \| vinyl instagram @allthatyouseeandhear I'd love to see your signature/links too, but the huge and obnoxious ones have caused me to block all signatures.

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littlebatty Groupie Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 13	siekiera is good

04-07-2010, 01:52 PM	#12 (permalink)
hip hop bunny hop Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,381	Carnivore is a band I have mixed feelings about. The lyrics are fun and I like their anti-hippie agenda, but the musicianship bores me. Mediocre riffs stretched out for a minute too long, and a rhythm section that doesn't seem to do anything interesting... Steele's vocal stylings certainly don't help either. Cryptic Slaughter's out put is uneven, but when they're on it's fantastic. Fast, decent riffs, and an excellent sense of rhythm.

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Dietrootbear Groupie Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 7	How far back does crossover go? More than just the term, I mean.

04-12-2010, 08:33 PM	#19 (permalink)
TheDailyBuzzard Groupie Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1	Municipal Waste is fantastic! They have some east coast dates coming up.. definitely check them out.

04-28-2010, 02:04 PM	#20 (permalink)
hip hop bunny hop Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,381	Toxic Holocaust are crossover? They're just another band reviving the sound of metal on the cusp of the extreme take over; the sound of early Sodom, in other words.