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View Poll Results: Which one do you prefer?
Proto-Punk 7 20.00%
Post-Punk 17 48.57%
Both 11 31.43%
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:27 AM   #31 (permalink)
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The Fall, The Pop Group, and This Heat are post punk.
'Nuff said.
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Old 12-24-2011, 05:02 AM   #32 (permalink)
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The Fall, The Pop Group, and This Heat are post punk.
'Nuff said.
Damn, that reminds me, I should get to downloading 'The Pop Group'.

As for the debate, bands labeled as post punk are better than bands labeled as proto-punk. However, it's hard to consider Post-Punk a genre as it's just a gimmick term for a grouping of bands that don't sound even remotely similar to each other. For me, "Post" is just another annoying buzzword like "Indie", "Alternative", and "Core". I can say the exact same thing as "Proto".

But, really, are "This Heat", "Public Image LTD", "Godspeed You! Black Emporer", and "Joy Division" really similar enough bands to justify a genre label?

Just sounds like a way to lump every piece of technical and/or ambient punk influenced music into one big box. I'd almost say that the connection is the similarities between kosmiche like traits of these bands, but a few like the seminal Joy Division really have none. Joy Division sound like a mixture of Velvet Underground, and punk rock. However, sometimes post-punk doesn't sound like 'punk' at all. A large portion sounds exactly like 80s art rock, or straight up avant-rock.

It's positively the most randomly schlepped together genre I've ever seen. Like trying to find the links between "The Residents", "Deer Hunter", "U-Men", "5uus", and "Weather Report". Then calling it a genre. Because, musically, I could imagine every one of those bands fitting into post-punk with the right visual aesthetic and/or took themselves more seriously.
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Old 12-28-2011, 11:17 PM   #33 (permalink)
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^That's true, but as for your Godspeed You! Black Emperor, I thought that they were post rock, not post post punk.
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Old 01-24-2012, 09:07 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Proto. Post bores the **** out of me.
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:46 AM   #35 (permalink)
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(Most) post punk bands really appeal to me because there resides within their music a form of experimentality not always found within proto punk, and when this experimentalism of their youth is expanded upon, you have great post punk artists such as Arto Lindsay, Charles Hayward, and Mayo Thompson.
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Old 01-27-2012, 10:15 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Post-punk.

Because I like Rollins Band!
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Old 02-25-2012, 11:47 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Old 02-25-2012, 06:14 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Funhouse is a pretty heavy argument for Proto Punk, i would say. I need to get more familiar with post punk though.
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