Why is "Post-Punk" even considered "Punk"?

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 07-04-2016, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy

Inb4 Frown tells us there is no silence.

Something something sound, something something vacuum, something something John Cage.

Did I do it right?

TechnicLePanther · 07-04-2016, 02:17 PM

Inb4 Frown says no.

JGuy Grungeman · 07-04-2016, 03:26 PM

I think Ramones are EXTREMELY overrated. I've listened to their debut 5 times to get why it's so popular besides the fact it influenced a whole wide realm of music, and all I can give it is a 6.5/10. I even gave it a higher rating simply because iot was so unioque for its time. Lowest was 1, I believe. My first rating was 3.5. All I'm saying is, I don't wanna listen to the same song made of the riffing techniques and redundant, poor lyrics for half hour.

The Batlord · 07-04-2016, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

I think Ramones are EXTREMELY overrated. I've listened to their debut 5 times to get why it's so popular besides the fact it influenced a whole wide realm of music, and all I can give it is a 6.5/10. I even gave it a higher rating simply because iot was so unioque for its time. Lowest was 1, I believe. My first rating was 3.5. All I'm saying is, I don't wanna listen to the same song made of the riffing techniques and redundant, poor lyrics for half hour.

It's about energy, bruh. You're not supposed to analyze the Ramones or give them a number ranking. You're just supposed to feel the music.

JGuy Grungeman · 07-04-2016, 04:19 PM

All I can feel is the same song for a half an hour.

The Batlord · 07-04-2016, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

All I can feel is the same song for a half an hour.

It's not really supposed to sound different. A lot of those early punk albums feel like bands that don't really know how to write songs trying for diversity when they couldn't do much more than race the same three chords to the end of a song. The Ramones for the most part didn't didn't concern themselves with any of that self-indulgent nonsense, and just did what they knew how to do. That would be awful for most bands, but the Ramones actually knew what their business was.

JGuy Grungeman · 07-07-2016, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

It's not really supposed to sound different. A lot of those early punk albums feel like bands that don't really know how to write songs trying for diversity when they couldn't do much more than race the same three chords to the end of a song. The Ramones for the most part didn't didn't concern themselves with any of that self-indulgent nonsense, and just did what they knew how to do. That would be awful for most bands, but the Ramones actually knew what their business was.

So their kmusic is for people who can't write songs, but just have fun with it? I think it works better for Family Force Five. All I'm saying is, if I want to have fun with songs that aren't their for writing quality, I'd at least like them to be different from each other.

And to be fair, concerning Wire, Clash, Sex Pistols, and many others, I'd say they knew how to write a hell of a lot better than the Ramones. OIn fact, I honestly felt the Ramones albums got better up to "It's Alive."

The Batlord · 07-07-2016, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

So their kmusic is for people who can't write songs, but just have fun with it? I think it works better for Family Force Five. All I'm saying is, if I want to have fun with songs that aren't their for writing quality, I'd at least like them to be different from each other.

And to be fair, concerning Wire, Clash, Sex Pistols, and many others, I'd say they knew how to write a hell of a lot better than the Ramones. OIn fact, I honestly felt the Ramones albums got better up to "It's Alive."

Yeah that's pretty much it. It might take time to get into them - I myself only kinda liked them until one night when it all just clicked and I was just punching the air while lying in bed at around two in the morning - but they're one of those bands where you either really get it or you really don't.

Blank. · 07-07-2016, 02:22 PM

I'm not really into the ramones. I think they're overrated. I prefer Sex Pistols or Clash.

OccultHawk · 07-04-2016, 04:45 PM

Some bands are so great that when you read something like that it really says I will never be able to see greatness even as it stands right before me. If you can't get the Ramones without having it spelled out for you you might as well not even bother listening to music. The helplessness expressed there is just too deep. No rope can reach the bottom of that well.

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JGuy Grungeman Primo Celebate Sexiness Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,662	I think Ramones are EXTREMELY overrated. I've listened to their debut 5 times to get why it's so popular besides the fact it influenced a whole wide realm of music, and all I can give it is a 6.5/10. I even gave it a higher rating simply because iot was so unioque for its time. Lowest was 1, I believe. My first rating was 3.5. All I'm saying is, I don't wanna listen to the same song made of the riffing techniques and redundant, poor lyrics for half hour. __________________ I'm a pretty nice troll if you ask me.

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OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	Some bands are so great that when you read something like that it really says I will never be able to see greatness even as it stands right before me. If you can't get the Ramones without having it spelled out for you you might as well not even bother listening to music. The helplessness expressed there is just too deep. No rope can reach the bottom of that well.