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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1769483)

lol they are the same thing thats always been my point that's why their genre will be listed as punk, garage rock, or garage rock, punk

your whole shtick as a border is trolling people as if you know something

Are you not the same person that totally rejects Blues played by white people? Somehow your ears are sensitive enough to know the race of the artist playing the Blues, but for some reason you ears are not sensitive enough to differentiate between Garage and Punk.

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1769916)

Cracker blues has a pretty distinct non grooviness.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1769918)

Cracker blues has a pretty distinct non grooviness.

Not my problem bro. I can't help it if you can't find the good stuff.

Nea is so white he has a Peanuts strip in his sig. Why would you expect him to appreciate just how white white people are?

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1769927)

Nea is so white he has a Peanuts strip in his sig. Why would you expect him to appreciate just how white white people are?

It's not that white. Did you forget about Franklin Armstrong?

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1769937)

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1769989)

garage is proto-punk and yes in a lot of cases there is practically no difference in sound you'd have to take it by an artist by artist scene by scene basis

It is only a retronym and it was never a legitimate genre name that was used by anyone at the time. No one in the 60s described a band or call a type of music "Proto-Punk."

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1769989)

where there are differences it's really in accents and speaking mannerisms considering garage included rural acts where as when we talk about Punk we pretty much only talk about city folk

It's more than accents. There are also difference in lyrical themes, and in chord progressions. Also there was a difference in style of clothing, even brand of guitars that were used.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1769989)

basically stop letting Rolling Stones magazine decide genres for you

I don't. However I would rather rely on them than someone who doesn't know what he is talking about.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1769989)

The lines between these things are so blurry once you get beyond the surface it really just suffices to consider all lofi independent noisy amateur rock bands to be Punk

No. :rolleyes:

Don't get him started on power pop. Mother****er turns into JGuy.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1770092)

People really didn't use post punk either until after the fact nobody was calling Marquee Moon post punk this again is basically my point

OK, that sentences doesn't really make sense. "People really didn't use [a term] after nobody was calling [something the term]." Richard Lloyd said he considered what Television played as "street music." Marquee Moon isn't proto-Punk or Post-Punk, not by Llloyd's standards, so I don't consider it either.