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Old 11-15-2016, 06:52 PM   #331 (permalink)
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lol they are the same thing thats always been my point that's why their genre will be listed as punk, garage rock, or garage rock, punk

your whole shtick as a border is trolling people as if you know something
Are you not the same person that totally rejects Blues played by white people? Somehow your ears are sensitive enough to know the race of the artist playing the Blues, but for some reason you ears are not sensitive enough to differentiate between Garage and Punk.
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Old 11-15-2016, 06:53 PM   #332 (permalink)
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Are you not the same person that totally rejects Blues played by white people? Somehow your ears are sensitive enough to know the race of the artist playing the Blues, but for some reason you ears are not sensitive enough to differentiate between Garage and Punk.
Cracker blues has a pretty distinct non grooviness.
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Old 11-15-2016, 07:19 PM   #333 (permalink)
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Cracker blues has a pretty distinct non grooviness.
Not my problem bro. I can't help it if you can't find the good stuff.
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Old 11-15-2016, 07:21 PM   #334 (permalink)
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Nea is so white he has a Peanuts strip in his sig. Why would you expect him to appreciate just how white white people are?
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Old 11-15-2016, 07:50 PM   #335 (permalink)
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Nea is so white he has a Peanuts strip in his sig. Why would you expect him to appreciate just how white white people are?
It's not that white. Did you forget about Franklin Armstrong?
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Old 11-15-2016, 08:24 PM   #337 (permalink)
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“If one listens to the wrong kind of music, he will become the wrong kind of person.” Aristotle.
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Old 11-16-2016, 04:54 PM   #338 (permalink)
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garage is proto-punk and yes in a lot of cases there is practically no difference in sound you'd have to take it by an artist by artist scene by scene basis
It is only a retronym and it was never a legitimate genre name that was used by anyone at the time. No one in the 60s described a band or call a type of music "Proto-Punk."

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where there are differences it's really in accents and speaking mannerisms considering garage included rural acts where as when we talk about Punk we pretty much only talk about city folk
It's more than accents. There are also difference in lyrical themes, and in chord progressions. Also there was a difference in style of clothing, even brand of guitars that were used.

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basically stop letting Rolling Stones magazine decide genres for you
I don't. However I would rather rely on them than someone who doesn't know what he is talking about.

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The lines between these things are so blurry once you get beyond the surface it really just suffices to consider all lofi independent noisy amateur rock bands to be Punk
No.
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Don't get him started on power pop. Mother****er turns into JGuy.
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Old 11-16-2016, 09:45 PM   #340 (permalink)
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People really didn't use post punk either until after the fact nobody was calling Marquee Moon post punk this again is basically my point
OK, that sentences doesn't really make sense. "People really didn't use [a term] after nobody was calling [something the term]." Richard Lloyd said he considered what Television played as "street music." Marquee Moon isn't proto-Punk or Post-Punk, not by Llloyd's standards, so I don't consider it either.
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“If one listens to the wrong kind of music, he will become the wrong kind of person.” Aristotle.
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