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Old 08-01-2020, 10:26 PM   #1191 (permalink)
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they can be on any given day

granted they don't have an album that doesn't have some fat filler

but conceptually they're everything that's hot hot about New Wave

dweebish art school cleverness underneath these wind through your hair bangers

perfect blend of corny and cool

I just love them
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Old 08-01-2020, 10:30 PM   #1192 (permalink)
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The debut is pretty solid throughout
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Old 08-02-2020, 02:05 PM   #1193 (permalink)
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I used to kinda sleep on The Sound

I'd say poseur ass **** like eh they're overrated

but I'm a ****ing idiot because "Propaganda" rulez
I'm opening my ledger and chalking up another good grace point for you, elph.

I love the Sound. Particularly their debut album and 'From the Lion's Mouth'. Although, they're definitely a post-punk band. I wish this place was more active so we could have a separate section for post-punk. The Sound wasn't an innovator, but they knew very well how to craft a great tune. It's unfortunate how Adrian Borland met his end though.



I think perhaps their most moving song though is 'Total Recall'.

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Old 08-02-2020, 03:09 PM   #1194 (permalink)
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I think the distinction between punk and post-punk and even proto-punk is blurry

I mean I'm not gonna get angry if someone calls The Clash "New Wave", but I'm not personally bothering to distinguish
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I think the distinction between punk and post-punk and even proto-punk is blurry

I mean I'm not gonna get angry if someone calls The Clash "New Wave", but I'm not personally bothering to distinguish
Eh, I don't know. Maybe between proto-punk and punk, I'd agree. They classify The Stooges as proto-punk (and who else? -- the New York Dolls, Television, etc?), but is there reallly that much of a difference, sonically?

But, if I listen to the Pistols and Joy Division, there's a distinct difference there.
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Eh, I don't know. Maybe between proto-punk and punk, I'd agree. They classify The Stooges as proto-punk (and who else? -- the New York Dolls, Television, etc?), but is there reallly that much of a difference, sonically?

But, if I listen to the Pistols and Joy Division, there's a distinct difference there.
Pere Ubu exist to undermine this argument.
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Eh, I don't know. Maybe between proto-punk and punk, I'd agree. They classify The Stooges as proto-punk (and who else? -- the New York Dolls, Television, etc?), but is there reallly that much of a difference, sonically?

But, if I listen to the Pistols and Joy Division, there's a distinct difference there.
most of that difference is in the production though, live Joy Division and pre-Hannet JD kinda are comparable to Sex Pistols, though with their own unique identity like every good punk band
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I've heard Television be referred to as both proto-punk and post-punk

how does that work?
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Yeah never forget that "punk" doesn't exist. It's a media term invented to put a certain group of artists into a box to sell the idea of their being one cohesive thing to an audience. The only real difference with punk is that it was a sort of spark point where, rather than just being a handful of artists connected only through influence, they were part of various scenes that were happening at the same time. "Punk" is just a snapshot of specific bands in a specific time period in the evolution of non-mainstream rock music. It doesn't actually have any inherent meaning except in deliberately drawing conclusions based on perceived similarities and interactions between the artists.
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punk pumped up the idea in the popular sphere that there could be such a thing as the non-mainstream

that you could be in pop music and be broke and/or a ****ing weirdo

leading to an explosion of all these exciting individuals who wouldn't have ever thought of themselves as musically inclined
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