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The Batlord 07-15-2017 03:20 PM

RAC Appreciation Thread (Neo-Nazi Punk FTW)
 
Man, I don't want to sound like a lameass who's spamming this **** for attention, but this **** is so much fun when it doesn't suck ass and you can make out the lyrics. But who the **** actually listens to this **** but me? Swastika-wielding Nazi cheerleaders are simply too much win to deny cause they're all awful people. I don't want to have to go to Stormfront to talk about Final War and No Remorse but god damn it I'm at my limit.















OccultHawk 07-15-2017 04:19 PM

Honestly I'm not quite sure what you're saying.

Would you like these bands if they were just typical punk bands singing **** the USA or is it something appealing about the Nazi taboo?

The Batlord 07-15-2017 04:28 PM

Yes. But seriously aside from Final War most of these bands wouldn't particularly register with me if not for the ironic thrill. Found a fair few who were legit entertaining on their own musical merits, but not so much that I'd seriously care if they were just regular punk bands. But the Nazi taboo is ten tons of fun to me after a decade and a half of metal bands singing about Satan and serial killers till it got stale.

So long as they remain fun praising Hitler and shouting racial epithets then I'm on board and don't really feel the need to justify them musically as if RAC isn't mostly garbage with a few decent bands to keep me going.

But seriously Final War is kind of fantastic and Glory Unending is easily a top 10 punk album.


OccultHawk 07-15-2017 04:33 PM

Is there a small part of you that thinks maybe they're right?

Mondo Bungle 07-15-2017 04:40 PM

is all the stuff that sounds exactly the same but with different lyrics not fun

The Batlord 07-15-2017 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1855937)
Is there a small part of you that thinks maybe they're right?

Not at all. I mean I guess I'm at least vaguely dubious in a curious, intellectual sense about whether or not multiculturalism is 100% good or has legit problems that should be discussed in a nonpolarized manner, but I definitely don't believe it's a bad thing anymore than I think anything is 100% bad or good. Other than that, no, and even then I have no sympathy for their views and conclusions on multiculturalism.

The Batlord 07-15-2017 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1855938)
Not just ironically good but "easily top 10" lol wut

*shrug*

It's top notch pop punk/melodic hardcore with more diversity than many non-racist bands afaic.

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Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle (Post 1855939)
is all the stuff that sounds exactly the same but with different lyrics not fun

Generally no as far as punk that's Skrewdriver-level. Fascism takes the edge off songs that make no impression.

Mondo Bungle 07-15-2017 04:44 PM

so literally the prejudice is the only thing making it fun

OccultHawk 07-15-2017 04:45 PM

Do you think it's possible the world would be a better place if the Nazis had managed to kill every single non-aryan?

The Batlord 07-15-2017 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle (Post 1855943)
so literally the prejudice is the only thing making it fun

The stuff I actually like is at least fun enough that it's not tedious to listen to, but yes the prejudice is the main selling point.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 07-15-2017 04:47 PM

this thread was destined to fail

The Batlord 07-15-2017 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1855944)
Do you think it's possible the world would be a better place if the Nazis had managed to kill every single non-aryan?

Yes. As a Celt I'm dubious about whether or not I'd still be alive and that means a lot to me. I dream about Hitler ****ing me to death and eating my corpse.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1855945)
Wtf Batlord lol

You've already said you hate the Descendents and I think Final War are pretty Descendents-esque with some Blink-182 thrown in for their poppier songs, so shrug.

The Batlord 07-15-2017 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1855947)
this thread was destined to fail

It's already got more posts than I was prepared for and is possibly singling me out as a racist, so I call it a success.

Mondo Bungle 07-15-2017 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1855946)
The stuff I actually like is at least fun enough that it's not tedious to listen to, but yes the prejudice is the main selling point.

pretty retarded

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 07-15-2017 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1855948)

You've already said you hate the Descendents and I think Final War are pretty Descendents-esque with some Blink-182 thrown in for their poppier songs, so shrug.

wait wait wait, what?

The Batlord 07-15-2017 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1855949)
ICP isn't ****ty enough for me anymore let me ramp it up yo

I'll go to the mat for ICP, but not so much for your average RAC band. I just like some of them and think they're entertaining to talk about.

The Batlord 07-15-2017 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1855953)
"I like it because it's racist"

Yes. And cause some of them have songs I want to listen to. But the racism is most definitely a large part of the draw.

Mondo Bungle 07-15-2017 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1855954)
I'll go to the mat for ICP, but not so much for your average RAC band. I just like some of them and think they're entertaining to talk about.

so is lynching kikes know what I'm sayin

The Batlord 07-15-2017 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1855952)
wait wait wait, what?

ikr

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1855953)
I'm scratching my head at

"I like it because it's racist"

Your run of the mill **** tastes can't shock me anymore

Like I said, Satanic and gore-ific metal bands are highly tame at this point, but Nazis still have an ironic thrill that makes me smile. Childish? Yes. Fun? **** yes.

The Batlord 07-15-2017 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle (Post 1855956)
so is lynching kikes know what I'm sayin

Jews are too white at this point. Only non-whites are fun to hang.

The Batlord 07-15-2017 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1855960)
Metalheads.

Basically. But if you can't enjoy Nazis then you're a weiner.

OccultHawk 07-15-2017 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1855953)
I'm scratching my head at

"I like it because it's racist"

Your run of the mill **** tastes can't shock me anymore

Because deviance is exciting and entertaining. At its core punk wasn't a rebellion against the system but a rebellion against any sort of conformity. I realize there's irony in everything ultimately being somehow conformist but the offensive anti-social nature of this music makes it an undeniably important part of what punk was. It wasn't prepackaged to fit our liberal sensibilities. It was ugly and ****ty. If you really like punk but as an outsider with no stake (and that's all that's left so that's all of us) then yes Nazism should be fun. They're sincerity makes it even better.

The Batlord 07-15-2017 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1855965)
Nazism is uberconformity intolerant of deviance

Not really an argument that makes any sense

If you think hating non-whites and supporting blood and honor ideology is conformist then aren't you the monster?

Mondo Bungle 07-15-2017 05:15 PM

the only monster here is boring ass music

OccultHawk 07-15-2017 05:16 PM

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As a Celt I'm dubious about whether or not I'd still be alive and that means a lot to me. I dream about Hitler ****ing me to death and eating my corpse.
Your personal well-being is irrelevant to the question.

The Batlord 07-15-2017 05:16 PM

But seriously anyone who thinks this isn't fun, lyrics or not, can go **** themselves.



Goofle 07-15-2017 05:18 PM

So long as the music is good I don't care what terrible ideologies are perpetrated by the artist. I've listened to many commie musicians and enjoyed their stuff despite understanding that they hold the worst political ideology in the history of humankind.

Mondo Bungle 07-15-2017 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1855972)
So long as the music is good I don't care what terrible ideologies are perpetrated by the artist. I've listened to many commie musicians and enjoyed their stuff despite understanding that they hold the worst political ideology in the history of humankind.

well the four or five different songs that make up RAC are catchy

The Batlord 07-15-2017 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle (Post 1855974)
well the four or five different songs that make up RAC are catchy

If you can like punk then you can like RAC. Just maybe less if you're lame. But you don't like country so I already know you're lame.

Mondo Bungle 07-15-2017 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1855975)
But you don't like country so I already know you're lame.

please tell me when and where I said this because I am incredibly curious

The Batlord 07-15-2017 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle (Post 1855977)
please tell me when and where I said this because I am incredibly curious

I don't remember, but you said something about country all sounding the same and hating the **** your parents play all the time.

Mondo Bungle 07-15-2017 05:41 PM

oh yeah when I was talking about the boring stuff and literally never once saying it all sounded the same

other than that I searched for posts by me with the word "country" but didn't really feel like sifting through all the posts saying how much I like a lot of it

The Batlord 07-15-2017 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1855981)
Sure but it'd be peculiar if you liked them specially because they masturbate to Marx and Engels

It'd be peculiar because even with the Soviet Union there isn't the history of outrage at communism that there is with Nazism. It's like when your parents tell you not to hang out with the delinquent who smokes weed behind the school at lunch and now you just wanna smoke weed behind the school at lunch even though the kid is a ****head.

The Batlord 07-15-2017 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle (Post 1855982)
oh yeah when I was talking about the boring stuff and literally never once saying it all sounded the same

other than that I searched for posts by me with the word "country" but didn't really feel like sifting through all the posts saying how much I like a lot of it

It's not like we had an in-depth conversation. I just remember you saying that country was boring. If I got it wrong then I got it wrong.

Mondo Bungle 07-15-2017 05:44 PM

well ya sure did

Goofle 07-15-2017 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1855983)
It'd be peculiar because even with the Soviet Union there isn't the history of outrage at communism that there is with Nazism. It's like when your parents tell you not to hang out with the delinquent who smokes weed behind the school at lunch and now you just wanna smoke weed behind the school at lunch even though the kid is a ****head.

Damn son.

Nazism hard done by when it comes to scorn and condemnation.

Goofle 07-15-2017 06:09 PM

Batlord wasn't saying Communism is thought of as a positive overall, he was making the point that comparatively it's not given anywhere near as much attention as Nazism.

We all know Communism has done more harm to the world than Nazism, but I guess it wasn't real Nazism.

OccultHawk 07-15-2017 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1855993)
???????

this is not my experience at all as an American at least

the delinquents smoking weed behind the school are all communists in ragged clothes and that's why they don't charge you to take a hit

They rape you.

The Batlord 07-15-2017 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1855993)
???????

this is not my experience at all as an American at least

the delinquents smoking weed behind the school are all communists in ragged clothes and that's why they don't charge you to take a hit

I wouldn't know as I was never cool enough to smoke weed behind the school.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1855994)
Idk how you grow up in southern/rural America and think nobody is scornful towards communists/communism

It is true that the ideology is morally sound so I guess that's what you're referring too

People don't like communism, but there still isn't the visceral hatred as with Nazism, no matter what the self-important Republicans would have you believe.

OccultHawk 07-15-2017 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1856000)
Communists aren't exactly praising Stalin the way Stormfront loves them some Hitler now are they

There sure are some with a hard-on for Mao.


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