The Official Clash Thread (lyrics, indie, pop, punk, rock)

Ghostbuster3000 · 01-27-2007, 04:32 PM

Anybody heard the album 'the good, the bad and the queen'?? I named the album becuase the band officialy have no real name. But anywho the point is that their bassist is from the clash. And they have guitarist from Verve and this other guy on drums cant remember his name...

right-track · 01-27-2007, 04:59 PM

I read somewhere he was African.

Edit: ^ Well that proves how much I pay attention. :/

Google says...Africa 70 drummer Tony Allen.

Sparky · 01-27-2007, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostbuster3000

Anybody heard the album 'the good, the bad and the queen'?? I named the album becuase the band officialy have no real name. But anywho the point is that their bassist is from the clash. And they have guitarist from Verve and this other guy on drums cant remember his name...

yeah i got their album. For such a good group i was dissappointed ,o well..at least i didnt pay for it.

QueenNothing · 01-29-2007, 09:47 AM

my fav song is of course......"London Calling"

Moon Pix · 01-29-2007, 11:55 AM

Having heard most of them I wouldnt listen to any of the Clash's albums all the way through but The Essential 2CD compilation does a great job of boiling their catalogue down to the bare essential and its pretty much all you need.

As for talk of the Clash being sellouts, in the beginning the only thing that punk rock stood for was freedom. It didnt stand for being anti-authority, indie and proud of it and it certainly wasnt against making money. Freedom includes the right to being as big and successful as you want to be. Any artist making decisions, artistic or business orientated, that are designed to keep them being branded a sellout is just as caged up as the artist who signs to Sony records, even more so in a way because if you go to Sony its not actually a guarantee that theyre going to dictate to you what you should do.

All of this anti materialism/anti success stuff didnt come in untill Crass started. What you have to remember is that reality for people like Joe Strummer or Paul Cook was standing in the dole queue and without punk that might have been the rest of their lifes. It was Crass that destroyed the free thinking and individualistic attitude of punk because between 1977 and 1984 they did nothing but tell people how they should feel about every f***ing issue on the planet. They were like the preacher in the street shouting everybody down as sinners. They should have done that one decent record they did just to get their ya yas out and ditch the whole punk thing and gone on to further education and become something useful like doctors or accountants or something instead of shouting "save the f***ing cows" at everybody for 6 or 7 years.

Crass are the reason that Green Day get called sellouts for going on MTV and actually enjoying their lives.

Sneer · 01-29-2007, 12:27 PM

I'd still take crass over the sex pistols any day. At least their music had a lot of thought and meaning behind it . they were clever guys. And i dont know what your on about with your 'all punk meant was freedom' point, thats bull. it was a direct reaction to the establishment and excessive rock and pop prevalent in the music industry, which coincided with its DIY ethos. freedom was part of it yes, but there was alot more to it then that. Crass merely went to more extremes.

Moon Pix · 01-29-2007, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu

it was a direct reaction to the establishment and excessive rock and pop prevalent in the music industry, which coincided with its DIY ethos.

Thats why the Sex Pistols and the Clash and the Damned all signed to big record labels, because they hated the industry.

Sneer · 01-29-2007, 12:38 PM

the sex pistols were just a boy band dressed up as punks anyway, the clash developed into a genuinly huge band in their time and the damned were on stiff records and also chiswick, hardly what i'd call major labels, in fact, stiff was set up as a punk label i thought. Anyway, they werent the only 'punk' bands around you know. the vast majority of bands deemed as punk were on indie labels and like every other genre, punk had its big names that the industry offered a lot of cash to so as to make more money.

Moon Pix · 01-29-2007, 12:41 PM

The only reason that the Sex Pistols got together was so that Malcolm McClaren could sell more bondage trousers.

Cash from chaos.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 01-29-2007, 12:41 PM

The Clash didn`t sign for Sony anyway , they signed for CBS which was taken over by Sony in the late 80s/early 90s

01-27-2007, 04:32 PM	#91 (permalink)
Ghostbuster3000 jabba the somehthing... Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 94	Anybody heard the album 'the good, the bad and the queen'?? I named the album becuase the band officialy have no real name. But anywho the point is that their bassist is from the clash. And they have guitarist from Verve and this other guy on drums cant remember his name... __________________ Das Baby bringing the pain...

01-27-2007, 04:59 PM	#92 (permalink)
right-track Atchin' Akai Join Date: May 2005 Location: Unamerica Posts: 8,723	I read somewhere he was African. Edit: ^ Well that proves how much I pay attention. :/ Google says...Africa 70 drummer Tony Allen. Last edited by right-track; 01-27-2007 at 05:05 PM.

01-29-2007, 11:55 AM	#95 (permalink)
Moon Pix In a very sad sad zoo Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: "Out on tour with Smashing Pumpkins, nature kids, they don't have no function" Posts: 363	Having heard most of them I wouldnt listen to any of the Clash's albums all the way through but The Essential 2CD compilation does a great job of boiling their catalogue down to the bare essential and its pretty much all you need. As for talk of the Clash being sellouts, in the beginning the only thing that punk rock stood for was freedom. It didnt stand for being anti-authority, indie and proud of it and it certainly wasnt against making money. Freedom includes the right to being as big and successful as you want to be. Any artist making decisions, artistic or business orientated, that are designed to keep them being branded a sellout is just as caged up as the artist who signs to Sony records, even more so in a way because if you go to Sony its not actually a guarantee that theyre going to dictate to you what you should do. All of this anti materialism/anti success stuff didnt come in untill Crass started. What you have to remember is that reality for people like Joe Strummer or Paul Cook was standing in the dole queue and without punk that might have been the rest of their lifes. It was Crass that destroyed the free thinking and individualistic attitude of punk because between 1977 and 1984 they did nothing but tell people how they should feel about every f*ing issue on the planet. They were like the preacher in the street shouting everybody down as sinners. They should have done that one decent record they did just to get their ya yas out and ditch the whole punk thing and gone on to further education and become something useful like doctors or accountants or something instead of shouting "save the fing cows" at everybody for 6 or 7 years. Crass are the reason that Green Day get called sellouts for going on MTV and actually enjoying their lives. __________________ There’s a dream that I see, I pray it can be Look 'cross the land, shake this land - "Maybe Not", C. Marshall Last edited by Moon Pix; 01-29-2007 at 12:13 PM.*

01-29-2007, 12:27 PM	#96 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,430	I'd still take crass over the sex pistols any day. At least their music had a lot of thought and meaning behind it . they were clever guys. And i dont know what your on about with your 'all punk meant was freedom' point, thats bull. it was a direct reaction to the establishment and excessive rock and pop prevalent in the music industry, which coincided with its DIY ethos. freedom was part of it yes, but there was alot more to it then that. Crass merely went to more extremes. __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

01-29-2007, 12:38 PM	#98 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,430	the sex pistols were just a boy band dressed up as punks anyway, the clash developed into a genuinly huge band in their time and the damned were on stiff records and also chiswick, hardly what i'd call major labels, in fact, stiff was set up as a punk label i thought. Anyway, they werent the only 'punk' bands around you know. the vast majority of bands deemed as punk were on indie labels and like every other genre, punk had its big names that the industry offered a lot of cash to so as to make more money. __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

01-29-2007, 09:47 AM	#94 (permalink)
QueenNothing music=life Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 152	my fav song is of course......"London Calling"

01-29-2007, 12:41 PM	#99 (permalink)
Moon Pix In a very sad sad zoo Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: "Out on tour with Smashing Pumpkins, nature kids, they don't have no function" Posts: 363	The only reason that the Sex Pistols got together was so that Malcolm McClaren could sell more bondage trousers. Cash from chaos. __________________ There’s a dream that I see, I pray it can be Look 'cross the land, shake this land - "Maybe Not", C. Marshall

01-29-2007, 12:41 PM	#100 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	The Clash didn`t sign for Sony anyway , they signed for CBS which was taken over by Sony in the late 80s/early 90s __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.