Rap Suggestions (techno, jazz, rap, itunes, albums)

Lisnaholic · 06-29-2018, 09:26 PM

^ HaHa!

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

What dont you like about it?

^ Thank you for not being offended, DWV, because I know from our chats in the A Capella Wars thread that you like rap quite a lot.

I guess for me there are several typical elements that don't appeal very much:

i) the insistent beat
ii) the predictable rhyming pattern. Before rap, the word for poems with overly-simple rhyming was "doggerel" and it used to turn up in Hallmark cards. Here's an example I just googled:-

Quote:

Love brought you together as husband and wife
And gave you each a best friend for life.
Today is your day, reserved for you two
Here's wishing you love all the year through.

iii) the routine use of bad language. With me, it's a reaction I can't override; I just don't like hearing the F*** or S*** words, except in moments of extreme emotion.
iv) I don't like the macho attitude behind some lyrics either. Women have fought long and hard to be treated as equals to men, and the little rap that I've heard seems larded with denigrating comments about women.

I could and do tolerate one or two of the above, but rap just ticks too many negatives for me, or at least it has done so far.

grindy · 06-29-2018, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

^ HaHa!

^ Thank you for not being offended, DWV, because I know from our chats in the A Capella Wars thread that you like rap quite a lot.

I guess for me there are several typical elements that don't appeal very much:

i) the insistent beat
ii) the predictable rhyming pattern. Before rap, the word for poems with overly-simple rhyming was "doggerel" and it used to turn up in Hallmark cards. Here's an example I just googled:-

iii) the routine use of bad language. With me, it's a reaction I can't override; I just don't like hearing the F*** or S*** words, except in moments of extreme emotion.
iv) I don't like the macho attitude behind some lyrics either. Women have fought long and hard to be treated as equals to men, and the little rap that I've heard seems larded with denigrating comments about women.

I could and do tolerate one or two of the above, but rap just ticks too many negatives for me, or at least it has done so far.

Apart from the beat thing those are all kinda optional in rap.
I guess even the beat is optional but I'm just not into beatless stuff.

You should check out Kate Tempest's "Let Them Eat Chaos".
It's my go-to rec for people who don't really like the genre.
Some of the social commentary is a bit heavy-handed but overall it's very well done and heavily rooted in poetry.
Also a concept album.

Lucem Ferre · 06-30-2018, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

^ HaHa!

^ Thank you for not being offended, DWV, because I know from our chats in the A Capella Wars thread that you like rap quite a lot.

I guess for me there are several typical elements that don't appeal very much:

i) the insistent beat
ii) the predictable rhyming pattern. Before rap, the word for poems with overly-simple rhyming was "doggerel" and it used to turn up in Hallmark cards. Here's an example I just googled:-

iii) the routine use of bad language. With me, it's a reaction I can't override; I just don't like hearing the F*** or S*** words, except in moments of extreme emotion.
iv) I don't like the macho attitude behind some lyrics either. Women have fought long and hard to be treated as equals to men, and the little rap that I've heard seems larded with denigrating comments about women.

I could and do tolerate one or two of the above, but rap just ticks too many negatives for me, or at least it has done so far.

Hip hop's changing and they are finally having discussions about the homophobia and the misogyny in hip hop. The newer rappers are pushing the direction away from it.