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TROY148 07-23-2008 08:18 PM

"Illmatic" and "It was Written" deserve to be in the hip-hop hall of fame if there is such a thing. He definitely fell off a bit but there is no doubt Nas is still one of the illest in the game right now.

ProggyMan 07-23-2008 10:56 PM

He should have decided to go for an all Dre album after Illmatic instead of now. Then I would have cared. His new album I haven't heard, and won't, but if he goes through with the Dre thing I'll pick it up. If.

TROY148 07-25-2008 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Highway Penguin (Post 430322)
Hello, I did a search, but was unable to find any thread on him already, so I apologize in advance if there is one.

Anyways, I just bought his Illmatic cd, slightly late I know, but I want to know which one I should pick up next? I was thinking God's Son or It Was Written....?

Thanks.

It was written is (in my opinion) an underrated album in Nas' catalogue, pick it up.

ScaryMovie 09-07-2008 04:20 PM

nas is amazing, and has more talent then some rappers could even think of


1. Illmatic- best hip hop album of all time
2. It Was Written
3. Untitled aka ******
4. Stillmatic
5. Lost Tapes
6. Nastradamous- this album gets very unfairly sh*t on
7. I Am
8. god's son

Surell 09-07-2008 04:25 PM

I got Illmatic, I listened through it, but the car was louder than the stereo and I wasn't paying attention. But I like the tracks Ether and Hip Hop is Dead a lot, so I'll be sure to give him another listen through. I wanna grab Stillmatic too.

(sin)TAX 09-14-2008 11:05 AM

its all about Illmatic....cant go wrong with any of those tracks. Nasty Nas lays down the knowledge

parlato 10-08-2008 06:24 PM

One of the greatest rappers..a legend. Untitled was a pretty sick album imo.

Zaraki Kenpachi 10-09-2008 06:49 AM

I like "I Am". Covers every topic that a rapper should. Has the hard stuff and the thoughtful stuff. Is he underground too???

I mean I thought only underground rappers had any skill. If more than 5 people know who he is then he must suck right? I mean he is on the Roc A Fella label isnt he? You cant be making millions and still be an artist right???

FU backpackers! STFU!!!!!!!!!

Jimmy Stewart 10-09-2008 11:48 AM

Illmatic - best hip hop album of all time

Nas - boring, tired, irrelevant guy

tristix 10-10-2008 10:38 PM

Definitely
 
Illmatic number one
It was written number 2

Rockafella 12-05-2008 05:36 PM

Nas - Illmatic is the greatest rap album of all time.

jackhammer 12-05-2008 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockafella (Post 558423)
Nas - Illmatic is the greatest rap album of all time.

I downloaded it yesterday and played it earlier. I am seriously missing something here. It bored me :(

Surell 12-05-2008 08:53 PM

It bored me the first time too. Give it time.

Out of all the musicians on my Christmas list, his has the most albums I want. All of em but Nastradamus.

Son of JayJamJah 12-08-2008 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Surell (Post 558569)
It bored me the first time too. Give it time.

Out of all the musicians on my Christmas list, his has the most albums I want. All of em but Nastradamus.

I agree Jackhammer, also consider it might not exactly be relatable to you.

Zaraki Kenpachi 12-09-2008 01:43 PM

Eh, now his checks are signed by Jay Z. Nas is the prototype for the word sellout. C'mon how do you crush that man on Ether and now he's signing your paycheck. Remember what Suge said about a paycheck. Its just someone paying you to stay in check. I lost a lot of respect for Nas with that move.

Anyway I Am was a great album. Def my favorite Nas album.

Surell 12-09-2008 08:41 PM

But then again, Suge's out of his ****in mind.

randomhero 12-09-2008 08:58 PM

Nas is without a doubt one of the greatest rappers out there, songs like Rewind, Hero, and Hate Me Now are genius.

Zaraki Kenpachi 12-10-2008 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Surell (Post 561158)
But then again, Suge's out of his ****in mind.

think about it though. Suge's statement is absoutely true. When you are on the clock you let people get away stuff that you would never allow on your own time. You are getting paid to act a certain way and talk a certain way. We get paid to stay in check while we do our job. Its true.

Hello, how are you? 12-10-2008 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 558457)
I downloaded it yesterday and played it earlier. I am seriously missing something here. It bored me :(

Yeah, it's quite bad. Hip Hop is Dead, I thought, was actually good. Untitled however is my worst album of 2008.

Surell 12-11-2008 09:42 PM

So because Nas patched things up with Jay Z, he's a sellout? So what if he's signed to his label; if he doesn't like it, quiting's an option?

LTS 12-17-2008 02:57 PM

I have his whole discography and for me its hit and miss but when hes on hes the best ether, suicide bounce, hate me now all great tracks

And I thought NAS was suprior to Jay-z but once he signed with him peace or no it was like acknowledging defeat

Banther 12-17-2008 08:28 PM

Love it was written and illmatic, 2 of my favs

djchameleon 03-09-2011 07:12 PM

I'd used google to find this thread so if you need to merge it with another so be it but I wanted to point out that I like Nas and everything but he bite his whole style/swagger from this man!

Cormega

Cormega is 10x better than Nas on his best day.






Sparky 03-10-2011 12:46 AM

Eh, I think Nas is better. He has a more distinct voice and way smoother flow

Howard the Duck 03-10-2011 08:35 AM

Illmatic is kinda slow and draggy and overrated

I prefer Street's Disciple - chilier and funkier and the rap flow is better

those are the only two of his I have

Raust 03-14-2011 05:16 PM

Listening to him now. Good underground music, using that term lightly. A lot of his lyrics are things that have already been said, but I like his delivery.

Sparky 07-18-2011 08:37 PM



really liking this song with raekwon, nas sounds hungry again :D

Electrophonic Tonic 07-18-2011 09:01 PM

I really liked him on the new Beastie Boys album

Too Many Rappers (New Reactionary Version)

Other than that, I haven't heard him that much.

djchameleon 07-18-2011 09:20 PM



heard this a few weeks back maybe a month ago.

ChordLord 07-21-2011 04:15 PM

Nas is pretty much the best hip hopper alive

Dirty 07-28-2011 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by matious (Post 1086549)


really liking this song with raekwon, nas sounds hungry again :D

I think he's hungry too. Didn't love this song to be honest though. Rae lost his appeal to me awhile ago. When he was younger and his first stuff with Wu and OB4CL he was awesome. I think it just felt more raw with his older material and more real, even if it wasnt (with the mafioso theme with Ghostface). I don't know, his new stuff doesn't do it to me. Nas is tough to put into context because he'll never run the billboard charts and doesn't seem real concerned with flashy hooks or appealing to the masses. Yall know I'm a Nas rider but he's a true rhymer and he still blows me away with the way he changes rhyme schemes and his delivery.

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1086558)


heard this a few weeks back maybe a month ago.

I'm diggin it. I wish Funk Flex would shut the fuck up though. Maybe the official release won't have him talking over the verses as much, lets cross our fingers.

soddit9 07-28-2011 12:27 PM

god's son, hands down the best nas album:band:

Dirty 08-09-2011 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NoteNoted.com (Post 1093954)
:pimp:Nas was the man back in the day. He's amongst the 90's best rappers. I can't hate on Queenbridge rappers. They are the realest of any rapper.

After reading Prodigy's My Infamous life (btw one of the best biographies I've ever read) I've sorta gained respect for him because he was the first big rapper out of Queensbridge Projects. Also Prodigy looked up to him for a while too. And if my man P says he like potatoes so do I.

Anyways I've always loved Nas, especially his earlier stuff. I stopped listen to him though after Nastradamahit. He lost me for a few years after that. But I soon regained my liking for him when Hip Hop is Dead came out. That album was sick, some of those amazing tracks were produced by Kanye West, no wonder why I loved it.

Peace,
J Note
Chief Editor
NoteNoted.com

My friend your first few posts have been awesome. Prodigy's bio is something I'll have to look into. Nas's early stuff is definitely his greatest, but considering Illmatic is pretty widely regarded as one of the best rap albums ever, I think it's unreasonable to think he could really get much better. I think part of the reason Illmatic is so impressive is because how young he was when he wrote and recorded it (and the producers on that album are unbelievable). And honestly, Nas doesn't get much love but I thought Untitled was pretty good despite people sleeping on it. And Lost Tapes is one of the most under rated releases in rap. I'm pretty excited to see what Nas's new album will be like.

Howard the Duck 08-10-2011 09:36 AM

i just got Stillmatic but haven't heard it yet

djchameleon 08-10-2011 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by NoteNoted.com (Post 1094386)
The following albums get more and more “mainstream”, losing their appeal and changing their style. I’m pretty sure the answer is cash. But what they don’t understand is that they had the formula right when they started, if its not broken don’t fix it. :confused: Ugggg I could go on and on about countless artists that have gone mainstream and lost their original style.

As an artist, you would want to experiment and change around your style a bit instead of being stagnant for a long period of time just because your fan bois that loved your debut album can't understand or embrace the creative direction that you as an artist is heading in.

Dirty 08-10-2011 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by NoteNoted.com (Post 1094386)
Thans for the kind reply. You seem to have some serious commenting as well. I just found this amazing forum and I look forward to sharing more with you guys. So expect to see a lot more from me. I also work for a Notenoted.com and you’ll be able to see more post/articles/interviews over there.

I completely agree about Illmatic, in my eyes its stands in the top 10 best hip-hop albums ever. I agree that artists usually drop their biggest bomb when they release their first album. The thing is I don’t have high expectations like my girlfriend. I’m not looking for an album to top their first one. But is it so much to ask (now I sound like my gf) that the album at least be the same calibre??? Why is it that pretty much every rapper that breaks out of the underground scene starts to lose their swagger??? The following albums get more and more “mainstream”, losing their appeal and changing their style. I’m pretty sure the answer is cash. But what they don’t understand is that they had the formula right when they started, if its not broken don’t fix it. :confused: Ugggg I could go on and on about countless artists that have gone mainstream and lost their original style.

I felt for a while that Nas was on that boat. Then he dropped Lost Tapes, I agree totally underated. He understood the formula to his success, bring it back to the old school. Less is better. Anyways I’m excited to see what the future holds for Nasty Nas.

PEACE,
Jeremy
Chief-Editor
NoteNoted.com

In my opinion, the mainstream stuff happens because of the money. There's limited thing to rhyme about, and if you look at a lot of 1st albums, it's gritty because they aren't paid yet. Once rappers get money, it's an easy topic to rap about.

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Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1094389)
i just got Stillmatic but haven't heard it yet

Stillmatic is solid. Rewind is a great song off that album. Whole song is a story in reverse. I also like Got Urself a Gun and One Mic.

Surell 08-10-2011 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1094389)
i just got Stillmatic but haven't heard it yet

The album is sick, One Mic is raw enough to equate to a good album (i was just spinnin it yesterday, so it's fresh in mind). I like it more than Illmatic personally; though the subject matter is limited (3rd degree firing Jay Z up), but the raw emotion and material is just sooo good.

Like Dirty said, Rewind is a great story too, and I love the Intro personally.

Dirty 08-19-2011 03:27 AM

Probably old news but I didn't hear about it til surfing for info tonight on the new Nas album... Off Future doing a song with Nas. Should be interesting.

RoStradamus 08-21-2011 08:59 PM

GOAT, favorite albums Illmatic, Stillmatic, It Was Written.

14232949 08-27-2011 05:18 PM

Really good rapper.
In terms of lyrical content, flow and relevance, the dude is up at the top in terms of all time MC's.
He's switched up his style towards the end of the 90's, but who didn't?

Hip-Hop changed, so did those who made a living from it.

Nas is still the man.


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