Greatest Hip Hop Artist/Group Ever

millstax · 02-05-2015, 06:49 AM

Tupac for sure.

TheMainMan · 02-16-2015, 01:54 PM

i cant answer for a single artist but i think that OutKast is the best hip-hop group ever

FunkMasta-J · 02-16-2015, 02:48 PM

While Tupac may have been the Martyr of Rap, was he the best?

FunkMasta-J · 02-16-2015, 02:55 PM

Outkast for sure is if not the greatest duo, seriously up there. But do you mean their projects with Organized Noise or all of their works? Idlewild was a disappointment for me.

Micco · 02-16-2015, 04:40 PM

IMO:

-Rakim remains the greatest MC of all time for me, dude introduced lyricism into Hip-Hop and killed as a legitimate MC, he's unparalleled in terms of Hip-Hop influence. His only other competitor could be Melle Mel for introducing Hip-Hop with a message.

-Duo wise, I go with Gang Starr, Premier will forever be the greatest producer of all time, dude is a legitimate master with beats, sampling, etc. Add that with Guru on the lyrics who is in my top 5 easy because of his crazy unique flow and added lyricism and consciousness in his writing. You've got IMO two of the greatest that will ever do it.

Tupac doesn't even make my top ten, his shooting and mainstream hits leave him as one of the most overrated rappers ever. His lyricism just isn't there and he constantly contradicts his own messages in his music. He elevated Hip-Hop into a state of violence and negativity it should have never reached because of his beef and gangsta rap.

That's just my opinion, not looking for an flame war here.

**Frownland** · 02-16-2015, 04:45 PM

^Word, fuck Tupac. Biggie Smalls too to a lesser extent. I feel like they're both good artists in their genre who never quite got to the level of great for me.

Micco · 02-16-2015, 10:32 PM

Yea, Tupac and Biggie are overdone to the death. But as you said Biggie to a lesser extent as he actually did have great lyricism when he wanted to. Plus he didn't rep West-Coast Gangsterism when he grew up on the East as a theater boy. Pshh

FRED HALE SR. · 02-19-2015, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Micco

IMO:

-Rakim remains the greatest MC of all time for me, dude introduced lyricism into Hip-Hop and killed as a legitimate MC, he's unparalleled in terms of Hip-Hop influence. His only other competitor could be Melle Mel for introducing Hip-Hop with a message.

-Duo wise, I go with Gang Starr, Premier will forever be the greatest producer of all time, dude is a legitimate master with beats, sampling, etc. Add that with Guru on the lyrics who is in my top 5 easy because of his crazy unique flow and added lyricism and consciousness in his writing. You've got IMO two of the greatest that will ever do it.

Tupac doesn't even make my top ten, his shooting and mainstream hits leave him as one of the most overrated rappers ever. His lyricism just isn't there and he constantly contradicts his own messages in his music. He elevated Hip-Hop into a state of violence and negativity it should have never reached because of his beef and gangsta rap.

That's just my opinion, not looking for an flame war here.

Gangstarr would definitely be my top five. Guru was so effortless on the mic and of course Premier is top of the pop. Hard to Earn goes as hard as anything ever done. I can even dig the Jazzmatazz albums, Donald Byrd word.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 02-19-2015, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FunkMasta-J

Outkast for sure is if not the greatest duo, seriously up there. But do you mean their projects with Organized Noise or all of their works? Idlewild was a disappointment for me.

Idlewild had a couple good tracks (Morris Brown, Train, Mighty O, Peaches) but yeah it was disappointing. Felt more like two solo artists making an album than a proper duo.

Their first four albums are all 9/10s and Speakerboxxx/TLB is very good. One of the strongest discogs in Hip-Hop.

Charles Appiah · 03-10-2015, 05:26 AM

OutKast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The roots
Doom

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Micco Karaoke Crooner Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 170	IMO: -Rakim remains the greatest MC of all time for me, dude introduced lyricism into Hip-Hop and killed as a legitimate MC, he's unparalleled in terms of Hip-Hop influence. His only other competitor could be Melle Mel for introducing Hip-Hop with a message. -Duo wise, I go with Gang Starr, Premier will forever be the greatest producer of all time, dude is a legitimate master with beats, sampling, etc. Add that with Guru on the lyrics who is in my top 5 easy because of his crazy unique flow and added lyricism and consciousness in his writing. You've got IMO two of the greatest that will ever do it. Tupac doesn't even make my top ten, his shooting and mainstream hits leave him as one of the most overrated rappers ever. His lyricism just isn't there and he constantly contradicts his own messages in his music. He elevated Hip-Hop into a state of violence and negativity it should have never reached because of his beef and gangsta rap. That's just my opinion, not looking for an flame war here. __________________ Follow me on instagram @HipHopLand, #salute!

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	^Word, fuck Tupac. Biggie Smalls too to a lesser extent. I feel like they're both good artists in their genre who never quite got to the level of great for me. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Micco Karaoke Crooner Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 170	Yea, Tupac and Biggie are overdone to the death. But as you said Biggie to a lesser extent as he actually did have great lyricism when he wanted to. Plus he didn't rep West-Coast Gangsterism when he grew up on the East as a theater boy. Pshh __________________ Follow me on instagram @HipHopLand, #salute!

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millstax Groupie Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 2	Tupac for sure.

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TheMainMan Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 66	i cant answer for a single artist but i think that OutKast is the best hip-hop group ever

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FunkMasta-J Groupie Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 2	While Tupac may have been the Martyr of Rap, was he the best?

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FunkMasta-J Groupie Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 2	Outkast for sure is if not the greatest duo, seriously up there. But do you mean their projects with Organized Noise or all of their works? Idlewild was a disappointment for me.

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Charles Appiah Groupie Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 4	OutKast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The roots Doom