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GuitarBizarre · 01-03-2011, 03:36 PM

I had this idea just now. Its pretty simple: Lets make a list of rap cliche.

Anything you think is vastly overdone to the point of it not being valid anymore, just post it here and I'll add it to the list of rap cliche.

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 01-03-2011, 04:08 PM

Well, how about we start with the obvious? Bitches. Women who are merely there for the performer's enjoyment, just objects that come with the lifestyle. These kinds of women have longed played a part in "tough guy" culture, spanning genres like Gangster Films, Heavy Metal, Action Flicks, and of course Hip Hop. The problem with these archetypal characters is that often times, especially in hip hop, they are just a bragging tool. They have no discernible personality and are criminally underdeveloped concepts ("I got bitches mayne, so many bitches they bitch at me yo")

Queen Boo · 01-04-2011, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Conan

Well, how about we start with the obvious? Bitches. Women who are merely there for the performer's enjoyment, just objects that come with the lifestyle. These kinds of women have longed played a part in "tough guy" culture, spanning genres like Gangster Films, Heavy Metal, Action Flicks, and of course Hip Hop. The problem with these archetypal characters is that often times, especially in hip hop, they are just a bragging tool. They have no discernible personality and are criminally underdeveloped concepts ("I got bitches mayne, so many bitches they bitch at me yo")

I've never really thought about this but you're exactly right. Claps for making me think.

Dr_Rez · 01-03-2011, 04:15 PM

All rappers having enormous dorks. I do not think that is true.

Bloozcrooz · 01-03-2011, 04:22 PM

Rap today lacks poetic passion. Like Tupac had. Actually telling a story in a poetic way. All any music really is saying is the same thing a million different ways. Just on a few different topics really. No matter what the genre.

Dr_Rez · 01-03-2011, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin

Rap today lacks poetic passion. Like Tupac had. Actually telling a story in a poetic way. All any music really is saying is the same thing a million different ways. Just on a few different topics really. No matter what the genre.

I disagree. Maybe mainstream rap but just like everything else you can find good stuff if you dig hard enough

Bloozcrooz · 01-03-2011, 04:37 PM

Yeah I just dont have the patience to dig anymore. After Pac died kind of lost interest. Never figured anyone else would top him. Eminem has some stuff I like but doesnt really compare.

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 01-03-2011, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin

Rap today lacks poetic passion. Like Tupac had. Actually telling a story in a poetic way. All any music really is saying is the same thing a million different ways. Just on a few different topics really. No matter what the genre.

Why does 2pac continually get praise for being poetic? I mean yeah, compared to Biggie it's poetic, but there was poetic stuff before and after Pac that quite frankly surpassed his stuff in just about every way.

Bloozcrooz · 01-03-2011, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan

Why does 2pac continually get praise for being poetic? I mean yeah, compared to Biggie it's poetic, but there was poetic stuff before and after Pac that quite frankly surpassed his stuff in just about every way.

Really? Feel free to elaborate.

**Janszoon** · 01-03-2011, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan

Why does 2pac continually get praise for being poetic? I mean yeah, compared to Biggie it's poetic, but there was poetic stuff before and after Pac that quite frankly surpassed his stuff in just about every way.

I don't get it either. I didn't think he was poetic the first time I heard him 17 years ago and I have never found him poetic since. Honestly I've always found him kind of cheesy.

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~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,538	Well, how about we start with the obvious? Bitches. Women who are merely there for the performer's enjoyment, just objects that come with the lifestyle. These kinds of women have longed played a part in "tough guy" culture, spanning genres like Gangster Films, Heavy Metal, Action Flicks, and of course Hip Hop. The problem with these archetypal characters is that often times, especially in hip hop, they are just a bragging tool. They have no discernible personality and are criminally underdeveloped concepts ("I got bitches mayne, so many bitches they bitch at me yo")

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Bloozcrooz Justifiable Idiocracy Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 1,244	Rap today lacks poetic passion. Like Tupac had. Actually telling a story in a poetic way. All any music really is saying is the same thing a million different ways. Just on a few different topics really. No matter what the genre.

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Bloozcrooz Justifiable Idiocracy Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 1,244	Yeah I just dont have the patience to dig anymore. After Pac died kind of lost interest. Never figured anyone else would top him. Eminem has some stuff I like but doesnt really compare.