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Old 01-28-2011, 05:28 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I have and I agree with him. Rappers first started out just hyping the DJ who was the real star.
People danced.
And the reason it spread like wildfire through black culture in the inner cities was because of bravado.
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Haha yes it was. Have you never watched or read anything about the beginning of hip hop?
Right, do you know why KRS-One vs. MC Shan was such a big deal? Because it was the first rap battle where the victory was more about who dissed who harder, not about who could get the crowd more hyped; before the Bridge Wars, hip hop was a lot more party-based than battle-equipped, and it was originally about the DJ, not the rapper.

Hip hop didn't get its start and build its foundation on fanciful bravado and battle rhymes. That has certainly become an aspect of the culture, and it's a good thing, and I would argue that it was an inevitable evolution. I do not like when people bitch about brag rap.
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Right, do you know why KRS-One vs. MC Shan was such a big deal? Because it was the first rap battle where the victory was more about who dissed who harder, not about who could get the crowd more hyped; before the Bridge Wars, hip hop was a lot more party-based than battle-equipped, and it was originally about the DJ, not the rapper.

Hip hop didn't get its start and build its foundation on fanciful bravado and battle rhymes. That has certainly become an aspect of the culture, and it's a good thing, and I would argue that it was an inevitable evolution. I do not like when people bitch about brag rap.
My point was that it spread to mainstream and beyond by the means I am speaking of. Now of coarse that does not mean there wasnt plenty of artists not following those rules.
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Old 01-29-2011, 10:13 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Uh... The point is, hip hop did not build its foundation on brag rap. That's what anticipation said, and it's wrong. Bravado was not the foundation, the culture was already established and growing, plenty was going on before the focus on self promotion and battle rhymes; bravado was an inevitable part of its evolution, and it's one of the best traits beheld by the hip hop culture, really.
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