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Old 09-16-2011, 06:35 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Probably not. However, I think more importantly, Hip Hop couldn't exist without Jazz Beatnik poetry of the 50s, and 60s.
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Old 09-17-2011, 03:26 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Probably not. However, I think more importantly, Hip Hop couldn't exist without Jazz Beatnik poetry of the 50s, and 60s.
I don't know the answer regarding R&B but I really don't think a small contingent of 1950s white intellectuals sipping coffee in San Francisco have much to do with the advent of hip-hop at all.
Of course there are obvious parallels in retrospect but no way can the Beats claim responsibility for underprivileged minorities in the South Bronx breakdancing in the streets 20 years later.
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Old 09-17-2011, 11:13 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I can't believe this is a thread lol
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Old 09-19-2011, 12:01 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I don't know the answer regarding R&B but I really don't think a small contingent of 1950s white intellectuals sipping coffee in San Francisco have much to do with the advent of hip-hop at all.
Maybe not, but they were exploring elements of rhythmic spoken word which I think often sounds very similar even if not as refined, natural, and a tad bit more pretentious than hip-hop.

I think the creative process is very similar. Stream of conscious thought expressed over minimalist rhythms. Playing with words, often improvised, for their syllable sounds, and dramatic effect.

It may not be a direct influence but a definitive precursor, no matter what anyone says.
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Maybe not, but they were exploring elements of rhythmic spoken word which I think often sounds very similar even if not as refined, natural, and a tad bit more pretentious than hip-hop.

I think the creative process is very similar. Stream of conscious thought expressed over minimalist rhythms. Playing with words, often improvised, for their syllable sounds, and dramatic effect.

It may not be a direct influence but a definitive precursor, no matter what anyone says.
Take it easy, I'll give you precursor. More to rapping than all of hip-hop but you've made a good point.

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Old 09-19-2011, 07:25 PM   #16 (permalink)
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This particular single, would've never existed if it hadn't been for Hip-Hop.



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Old 09-19-2011, 09:46 PM   #17 (permalink)
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This particular single, would've never existed if it hadn't been for Hip-Hop.

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If you're trying to shock and disgust me then you've succeeded.
But if your post has anything to do with R&B's influence on hip-hop then you've got some explaining to do.
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Old 09-20-2011, 05:10 PM   #18 (permalink)
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If you're trying to shock and disgust me then you've succeeded.
But if your post has anything to do with R&B's influence on hip-hop then you've got some explaining to do.
What do I need an explanation for?

Concerning what? (R&Bs influence on Hip-Hop)? Or, why you feel both shock and disgust?

Hip-Hop originated solely in African-American communities during the 1970s in New York City, specifically the Bronx. (Blues?..R&B?..)

You..tell me?
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Old 09-20-2011, 07:56 PM   #19 (permalink)
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rap is just another thing the blacks stole from white people, along with swag and dunking
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Old 09-22-2011, 02:01 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Why is that?
The first post is "Do you like Wiz Khalifa?" which has little relevance to the title of this thread. Furthermore, the title is a joke.
But, after mulling over on your question for hours, I have come to the conclusion that we should make all ridiculous hypothetical questions into threads.

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I've been telling people this for years.
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