10 greatest rappers (lyrics, effect, title)

cas · 01-23-2006, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by hobojesus

Snoop and Dre aren't ghost written-they come from them. Eazy's were. I'm not saying he was bad, he had a good voice and was good at rapping. It's just that he was a ghost writer. And I'd take ODB any day.

You are absolutley incorrect. Its widely known that the DOC wrote a good deal of The Cronic and Doggystyle. Snoop has admitted as much on national televsion.

Anyways, the use of ghostwriters is a lot more prevelent in hip-hop than people want to admit. Don't be suprised if your favorite rapper is getting a little help with his lyrics.

...and ODB over Talib?

Thats still

TrampInaTux · 01-23-2006, 01:20 PM

I honestly never knew that. I only follow the music, not the media coverage, so I wouldn't know. I would kind of expect that from Snoop though, but are you sure Dre's stuff is ghost written? And also, yes, I still put ODB over Talib. His style and voice are fantastic-grimy and brilliant.

cas · 01-23-2006, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hobojesus

I honestly never knew that. I only follow the music, not the media coverage, so I wouldn't know. I would kind of expect that from Snoop though, but are you sure Dre's stuff is ghost written? And also, yes, I still put ODB over Talib. His style and voice are fantastic-grimy and brilliant.

Positive. It goes all the way back to his NWA days when he had Cube, Ren, and The DOC writing most of his stuff. Today he has Eminem. In fact, if you go back listen to the Cronic 2001 you can hear Em's influence in Dre's flows.

If you really want your mind blown... Dre doesn't actually create most of the beats he gets credit for producing either. He keeps a team of the hottest beat makers at his disposal. That’s the difference in "producing" & "executive producing." He is the ultimate businessman.

Regarding ODB... I just can't take that guy seriously as an artist. If anything, he was a sideshow ala' Flavor Flav. No way he can touch Talib lyrically.

TrampInaTux · 01-23-2006, 02:35 PM

I think when he branched into a solo career it sort of ruined him-he seemed much better in a group, which can be shown in his solo albums. (He had lots of guest talent on his albums). When he was in the Wu I could always look forward to hearing an ODB verse, which seperated him from Talib in my view. True, he was a sideshow, and Talib does probably have the advantage on him lyrically, but his voice and style of rapping really made him stand out amongst the other more 'generic' rappers in the wu.

~~bungalow~~ · 01-23-2006, 09:11 PM

hobo, your list is a little lacking.
Why is Ludacris on it? You have gotta be crazy. There is no way that ODB could ever touch Talib....ever. There is no comparison. I agree with Dr. Dre being on the list, and maybe Snoop, but where are the other great rappers?
Easy definitly should be on there. Immortal Tech, Ghostface Killah. I thought that your list would be a little bit more credible.

EDIT: WHERE IS NAS?????????????

Soulrealalistica · 02-12-2006, 03:12 AM

Black Though

Big Daddy Kane
Rakim
talib kweli
Mos Def
The Blastmaster KRS-One
Guru
Nas
Biggie
Chuck D

Black Thought

Mascara · 02-12-2006, 01:14 PM

Not in order.

1. Tupac Amaru Shakur (Lesane Parish Crooks)

2. Notorious B.I.G

3. Jay-Z

4. Styles Of Beyond

5. Common

6. Ice T (He was really good in his time)

7. Twista

8. Method Man

9. Snoop Dogg (I love his style, Lyrically I don't so much)

10. Lady Sovereign (Female MC that's good? Uh huh!)

~~bungalow~~ · 02-12-2006, 01:17 PM

1.NAS

howcome he is rarly included?
and Twista? What are you smokin'?

Mascara · 02-12-2006, 01:21 PM

Does it matter? This is everyone's own top 10, Not just yours.

I like Nas's voice and style, but I haven't heard much of his stuff.

Is it that hard of a concept that I happen to also like Twista's voice? He's a fast rapper and I like it. I shouldn't need to explain my OWN opinion.

~~bungalow~~ · 02-12-2006, 01:23 PM

Well, it should be undisputed that Nas makes every greatest rapper list.
This isnt the favorite rapper thread. It is the best , and that is what he is.

02-12-2006, 01:14 PM	#77 (permalink)
Mascara Groupie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 25	Not in order. 1. Tupac Amaru Shakur (Lesane Parish Crooks) 2. Notorious B.I.G 3. Jay-Z 4. Styles Of Beyond 5. Common 6. Ice T (He was really good in his time) 7. Twista 8. Method Man 9. Snoop Dogg (I love his style, Lyrically I don't so much) 10. Lady Sovereign (Female MC that's good? Uh huh!) __________________ I've seen the angel's face, and i've heard her sing to me. From my reflection in this razor blade, i've heard 1000 dying screams.

02-12-2006, 01:21 PM	#79 (permalink)
Mascara Groupie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 25	Does it matter? This is everyone's own top 10, Not just yours. I like Nas's voice and style, but I haven't heard much of his stuff. Is it that hard of a concept that I happen to also like Twista's voice? He's a fast rapper and I like it. I shouldn't need to explain my OWN opinion. __________________ I've seen the angel's face, and i've heard her sing to me. From my reflection in this razor blade, i've heard 1000 dying screams.

01-23-2006, 01:20 PM	#72 (permalink)
TrampInaTux that's my war face. Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,418	I honestly never knew that. I only follow the music, not the media coverage, so I wouldn't know. I would kind of expect that from Snoop though, but are you sure Dre's stuff is ghost written? And also, yes, I still put ODB over Talib. His style and voice are fantastic-grimy and brilliant.

01-23-2006, 02:35 PM	#74 (permalink)
TrampInaTux that's my war face. Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,418	I think when he branched into a solo career it sort of ruined him-he seemed much better in a group, which can be shown in his solo albums. (He had lots of guest talent on his albums). When he was in the Wu I could always look forward to hearing an ODB verse, which seperated him from Talib in my view. True, he was a sideshow, and Talib does probably have the advantage on him lyrically, but his voice and style of rapping really made him stand out amongst the other more 'generic' rappers in the wu.

01-23-2006, 09:11 PM	#75 (permalink)
~~bungalow~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hot-lanta Posts: 3,140	hobo, your list is a little lacking. Why is Ludacris on it? You have gotta be crazy. There is no way that ODB could ever touch Talib....ever. There is no comparison. I agree with Dr. Dre being on the list, and maybe Snoop, but where are the other great rappers? Easy definitly should be on there. Immortal Tech, Ghostface Killah. I thought that your list would be a little bit more credible. EDIT: WHERE IS NAS?????????????

02-12-2006, 03:12 AM	#76 (permalink)
Soulrealalistica Groupie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 6	Black Though Big Daddy Kane Rakim talib kweli Mos Def The Blastmaster KRS-One Guru Nas Biggie Chuck D Black Thought

02-12-2006, 01:17 PM	#78 (permalink)
~~bungalow~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hot-lanta Posts: 3,140	1.NAS howcome he is rarly included? and Twista? What are you smokin'?

02-12-2006, 01:23 PM	#80 (permalink)
~~bungalow~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hot-lanta Posts: 3,140	Well, it should be undisputed that Nas makes every greatest rapper list. This isnt the favorite rapper thread. It is the best , and that is what he is.