But interpretation differs person to person.

Well I believe that Wayne's being so prolific and consistently having a few hot tracks on his mixtapes and albums (Carter up is what i'm talking, cuz i'm not familiar with pre-Carter albums) ((that i've listened to also)), and also his many swell guest appearances at least level out to Kanye's consistency (which i must admit i am only very familiar with Graduation). But I will admit, I think Wayne's features on songs have been pretty weak lately. But My Face Can't Be Felt was a hawt mixtape so that'sa make up for it.

All together though, I would say I myself prefer Wayne over Kanye as a rapper, but i'm not too familiar with Kanye and am all too familiar with Wayne, so this is pretty unfair on my side.

Trust me on this, man, you have to listen to College Dropout. Don't form an opinion on Kanye until you hear it, man. Trust me.

Sounds fair brojannnnngels.

+1 Much different from his new stuff

Kanye west is mediocre at best when it comes to lyrics.

The only thing I like about Kanye is how he **** all over Taylor Swift's when she was taking her award.

exactly it was progressively worse and worse with each album. although I'm not saying that's what you meant.

can't imagine what his next album's gonna be like

I think he makes an ass of himself alot but i like his music

I completely agree. He always ruins it with something stupid that he does. Like the VMA incident. What was he thinking?

I would like to agree with you guys, he is an ass but he makes some mighty fine music ...

yeah i think he's a **** but the music is great...

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does anyone else find him hilarious? i obviously mean unintentionally hilarious but he's had so many freak outs over the years that they just seem to be getting more and more comical each time.

some of his best ones:
YEAHOYEAH - Kanye West - Kanye West Apologizes to Taylor Swift on Jay Leno

I dunno, but I really like his verse on Forever. I think he kinda outshines everyone else. Drake isn't too hard to outdo, but Wayne and Em is a bit more of a feat to me. Wayne's features haven't been that great as of late anyway. I do love I Can Transform Ya buthatsadifferentstory.

in my opinion, eminem's verse on Forever was far better than kanye's, but thats just an opinioin.

KanYe and Eminem definitely had the best verses in Forever.
Wayne actually didn't do too bad, and Drake was alright, too.

Drakes pretty tame compared to Kayne and the others. I think he needs to be more confident, really put himself out there or he'll just be another rapper. Collaborating with Rihanna was good but the song didn't go well mainstream-wise.

Oh for sure, Em brought it home on that one. Kayne had a pretty decent verse too but in all honesty I think Lil Wayne did better.

OOOOOHH "Wayne didn't do too bad"? ohsnap.
No but yeah, the whole song was hot anyway, i concur.

Well I think Drake sounds too much like Wayne anyway so i'm not that fond of his rapping. His chorus work is real niiiice but the rapping, eh.

I could understand why, it certainly was good. But Kanye's was more evolutionary/progressive to me.

Ehhhh, I listen to sooo much Wayne that verses like that just seem a little old to me. I dunno, but that verse seemed a little average to me. I love the new mixtape, though!

Edit: Only my third quote response was even about Kanye. i'msobad.

I haven't really spent much time listening to the song, but that is quite possible. I simply like the verse eminem spit best on a sonic level, lyrically i agree there's nothing unique about a rapper spitting about rapping.

outshining eminem in his current form isn't much of a feat i.m.o if kanye could outshine the eminem from the late 90's - early 00's then i would be impressed. Only person that even came close to that was royce.

I find kanyes earlier stuff better than his new stuff but none of it is groundbreaking. I do enjoy listening to some of his older music from time to time but i think he's overrated by most people.

He does make for an entertaining celebrity though (if you're into that kind of thing). Always in the tabloids for some reason.

He's pretty good, but not beast. Not much else to say.

His first CD is classic, and then it went downhill from there. Autotune wayyy too much. His rap used to be the truth!

He only made use of autotune on one album, and he said he's not going to do that anymore.

i love his song all falls down

Kinda curious. Downloading his discography right now. I'm expecting 808 to be **** but all I know about his first few albums is whats written in the last 2 or so pages of this thread and that he raps about working at the Gap and wanting to kill his white manager.....

For someone who grew up in a middle American suburb, he sure does whine about race a lot.

^not sure what your trying to get at...

All the new tracks he's been dropping so far have, at worst, been interesting. His production is still strong even if it feels like his rapping is getting kinda stale.

I'm just saying. It seems like he's compensating.

compensating for what?

Kanye West - The glory

Kanye West - Touch the sky

With those songs.. He has my respect for life.

All his new songs are super-tight. Especially 'Lost In The World' with Bon Iver.

Kanye is the PERFECT example of how I can love a person's music, but absolutely HATE everything about the person. '808-era' Kanye was hot garbage of course, but I have faith he'll drop a banger this time.

For growing up middle class and going to college.

you don't have to grow up in the most impoverished parts of the country to know that race is something that can divide people, make others form unfound/untrue opinions on you, or make you feel left out among the majority.

George Bush hates black people? Come on. Sorry but I get the feeling he's just playing a race card sometimes. Not that I know how much he may have struggled with the issue, but seeing as to where he grew up, it just seems unlikely that'd he'd legitimately have experienced it as much as he'd like people to believe.

I don't think there's anything wrong with suburbs or rappers from non-urban areas. I just get uneasy when they compensate for something that doesn't need to be compensated for.

Well, I do agree that when it comes to Kanye himself, he does tend to bring about the race issue when it's uncalled for. What I was commenting on was how economic status doesn't necessarily mean complete social equality. Hell, i've been in pretty well off neighborhoods where the majority there were of a different ethnicity as me and while i could say that i live in an area of similar standing, there have been times where i would get offhanded comments or looks from people because i happened to look a little different.

as for "overcompensating for something that doesn't need to be compensated for", tbh that kind of sounds like you're treating this issue a bit too lightly, don't you think? i mean, i'm not really for over-inflating something stupid like physical appearance or skin color, but that doesn't mean there aren't people out there who do, or causes that are trying to get rid of thinking like that. I do agree that people who try to bump up their own rep by using it should go jump off a bridge, but that doesn't mean that there aren't people who are concerned about it, regardless of social/economic standing.

I don't care if he did for shock value alone, seeing mike meyers face was when kanye said that was awesome:yeah:

I hope you don't like rappers based on their authenticity. Your not really listening to rap music for inside window into what the ghetto is like are you?

Kanye is all about his swagger, he's a pop star like wayne or kalifa. I can totally see why your not into that, but don't dislike him because you feel like his life was too easy.

I don't. Like I said I couldn't care less where he's from. I like him and everything, but I just get a bad vibe from him sometimes. Like he tries to hard sometimes.

Is that something to be ashamed of? Because I'm ****ing not.

Of course that's nothing to be ashamed of!