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Old 12-05-2012, 12:12 PM   #231 (permalink)
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Goofle comes from the Janz school of thought, consists of blanket statements and never being able to support one's opinion with reasoning.

-"this artist is terrible. thats all i want to say over and over"
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:14 PM   #232 (permalink)
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So Jay Z does suck, I agree. Hes been very influential in flooding the airwaves with dog**** and infecting other rappers with the same disease. Here we go again.
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I dunno man I guess it's how you approach it. I think Bob Dylan was a good poet and a godawful musician, but the usual consensus is his music was good and extremely influential




I'm just going to requote everything since this argument nevery actually goes anywhere
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:15 PM   #233 (permalink)
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Goofle comes from the Janz school of thought, consists of blanket statements and never being able to support one's opinion with reasoning.

-"this artist is terrible. thats all i want to say over and over"
I never got the Jay Z phenomenon either. I can respect the way he has made a name for himself, but it baffles me everytime I hear a song by him, why hes revered in such a way. I would say more power to him, but hes like the new Mcdonalds or Starbucks, seemingly taking over the Universe, so hes fine.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:15 PM   #234 (permalink)
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Goofle comes from the Janz school of thought, consists of blanket statements and never being able to support one's opinion with reasoning.

-"this artist is terrible. thats all i want to say over and over"
I think he comes from the school of thought of "Jay-Z sucks and Janszoon is a cool guy, screw it I'll agree with whatever the hell he's saying"
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:20 PM   #235 (permalink)
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I never got the Jay Z phenomenon either. I can respect the way he has made a name for himself, but it baffles me everytime I hear a song by him, why hes revered in such a way. I would say more power to him, but hes like the new Mcdonalds or Starbucks, seemingly taking over the Universe, so hes fine.
This discussion kind of evolved beyond Jay-Z's importance, yeah you could probably logically argue how much impact Jay-Z had. This was more about objectivity and it's place in art.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:21 PM   #236 (permalink)
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I'm just going to requote everything since this argument nevery actually goes anywhere
Exactly. If it helps you can win the argument and i'll be the guy losing because Jay Z's influence is breaking down barriers for some kid in Harlem.

Good to see you back Tuna.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:22 PM   #237 (permalink)
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I never got the Jay Z phenomenon either. I can respect the way he has made a name for himself, but it baffles me everytime I hear a song by him, why hes revered in such a way. I would say more power to him, but hes like the new Mcdonalds or Starbucks, seemingly taking over the Universe, so hes fine.
Alright, lets take a fresh approach at this. I'm going to provide an an example of jay z's music and try to provide reasons as to why it's a POSSIBILITY it might be good.



Infectious beat. Provides social commentary about police racial profiling while still not taking itself too seriously, a la 99 problems. Jay'z cadence wordplay, etc does nothing to DETRACT from the song. Lets compare it to an artist who is no doubt terrible



How do you not notice a discrepancy.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:25 PM   #238 (permalink)
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Alright, lets take a fresh approach at this. I'm going to provide an an example of jay z's music and try to provide reasons as to why it's a POSSIBILITY it might be good.



Infectious beat. Provides social commentary about police racial profiling while still not taking itself too seriously, a la 99 problems. Jay'z cadence wordplay, etc does nothing to DETRACT from the song. Lets compare it to an artist who is no doubt terrible



How do you not notice a discrepancy.
Yeah that Lex Luger jam was way tighter. Good beats and his flow wasn't droning on like a Jay Z slobberfest. Good call. OK I'm out, good luck guys.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:28 PM   #239 (permalink)
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Yeah that Lex Luger jam was way tighter. Good beats and his flow wasn't droning on like a Jay Z slobberfest. Good call. OK I'm out, good luck guys.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:31 PM   #240 (permalink)
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Whats the entire point of this site if nobody wants to substantiate why an artist is bad but rather just remain vigilant in their own ineptitude.
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