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Old 12-05-2012, 09:30 PM   #261 (permalink)
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Because people don't understand subjectivity, whilst ironically using subjectivity as their only argumentative tool.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:38 PM   #262 (permalink)
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True, but also i feel like Jay Z v Nas topic has been milked out so much that eventually what is their to talk about it? but anyway these would all need different topics since books are not related what so ever
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:50 PM   #263 (permalink)
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Yes, of course. If you think something is terrible then erm... it's terrible. Pretty fucking simple.
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So if I think Steve Jobs was a terrible businessman, it becomes fact that he was a terrible businessman?
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:52 PM   #264 (permalink)
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If you can't differentiate personal taste from mastery of medium ... well then you're just plain wrong. And uninformed, at that.
This, can't believe people are arguing against it.

Goofle earlier in the thread you said Jay-Z is more interesting musically and I said he wasn't. So does that mean he is and isn't since we both think he is and isn't?
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So if I think Steve Jobs was a terrible businessman, it becomes fact that he was a terrible businessman?
This is not my first exchange where he's been like this. He's more concerned with asserting his dominance than actually having a good discussion.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:57 PM   #266 (permalink)
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All of this seems like its based on opinion. its like they are clashing and we cant come to a medium
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:02 PM   #267 (permalink)
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All of this seems like its based on opinion. its like they are clashing and we cant come to a medium
Yeah but I could quite easily have said Jay-Z is terrible at the start of this thread, I don't listen to his music and I think he's a massive knob. I didn't say it cos isn't the point to have a fair discussion? Whatever I think doesn't change whether he's good or not.
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:03 PM   #268 (permalink)
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This, can't believe people are arguing against it.

Goofle earlier in the thread you said Jay-Z is more interesting musically and I said he wasn't. So does that mean he is and isn't since we both think he is and isn't?
I never said Jay-Z was terrible, Jans thinks he is. Subjectivity.
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How people think that an individual's subjective opinion does not necessarily have to be correct unless it coincides with their own subjective opinion bemuses me.
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Yeah but I could quite easily have said Jay-Z is terrible at the start of this thread, I don't listen to his music and I think he's a massive knob. I didn't say it cos isn't the point to have a fair discussion? Whatever I think doesn't change whether he's good or not.
and i think that is the point we all need to understand
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