Illmatic - is it worth the hype?

Micco · 03-26-2015, 04:00 AM

I think Illmatic is pretty damn flawless, It Was Written is good, and after that there are a few cuts here and there I listened too from the rest of his Discogs. In terms of Jay-Z there are about 5 songs of his I enjoy, and two of them take from Nas in the first place lol. Nas > Jay anyday.

**Frownland** · 03-26-2015, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

there was a while that i thought it was written was better tbh. the more i started to obsess over the early 90's ny sound the better illmatic's production started to sound to me

and i don't really consider myself a nas fan either. to me a nas fan is someone who rates mediocre albums like Illmatic and believes that nas actually sonned jay-z

ftfy

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 03-26-2015, 02:08 PM

illmatic is more or less universally acknowledged as a classic by the vast majority of people who know/appreciate 90's east coast hip hop

where as the albums i mentioned are only really repped by hardcore nas fans

**Frownland** · 03-26-2015, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

illmatic is more or less universally acknowledged as a classic by the vast majority of people who know/appreciate 90's east coast hip hop

That doesn't make it any less of a mediocre album that is also repped by hardcore Nas fans.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 03-26-2015, 02:16 PM

no, you can say anything is mediocre if you like

i can say beethoven's 9th is mediocre if i like

but saying only nas fans rate illmatic is like saying only wu fans rate 36 chambers

i.e. makes you sound like you have no clue what you're on about

**Frownland** · 03-26-2015, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

no, you can say anything is mediocre if you like

i can say beethoven's 9th is mediocre if i like

but saying only nas fans rate illmatic is like saying only wu fans rate 36 chambers

i.e. makes you sound like you have no clue what you're on about

I never said only Nas fans rep it, but Nas fans do rep the mediocre album don't they? At least 36 Chambers deserves the hype.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 03-26-2015, 02:22 PM

says who?

and you should re-read the quote that you "fixed," cause that's exactly what you said.

**Frownland** · 03-26-2015, 02:28 PM

No edit bruh, I just said that it was reped by hardcore Nas fans to flip what you said earlier about those other two albums. You're the one who tossed in the word 'only' with your comment. I realize its universally acclaimed, doesn't mean I have to agree with it.

Let's just agree that we don't like the same mediocre albums.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 03-26-2015, 02:32 PM

then you didn't understand the quote you were "fixing," cause i was saying only nas fans would rep an album like hhid or streets disciple. i was defining the traits of a nas fan in my own perception. which is my opinion. but by replacing those albums with illmatic you were basically saying the same applies to illmatic. which is the statement i was criticizing here:

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

but saying only nas fans rate illmatic is like saying only wu fans rate 36 chambers

i.e. makes you sound like you have no clue what you're on about

**Frownland** · 03-26-2015, 02:35 PM

I was saying Illmatic is mediocre ffs.

03-26-2015, 04:00 AM	#101 (permalink)
Micco Karaoke Crooner Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 170	I think Illmatic is pretty damn flawless, It Was Written is good, and after that there are a few cuts here and there I listened too from the rest of his Discogs. In terms of Jay-Z there are about 5 songs of his I enjoy, and two of them take from Nas in the first place lol. Nas > Jay anyday. __________________ Follow me on instagram @HipHopLand, #salute!

03-26-2015, 02:28 PM	#108 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	No edit bruh, I just said that it was reped by hardcore Nas fans to flip what you said earlier about those other two albums. You're the one who tossed in the word 'only' with your comment. I realize its universally acclaimed, doesn't mean I have to agree with it. Let's just agree that we don't like the same mediocre albums. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

03-26-2015, 02:35 PM	#110 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	I was saying Illmatic is mediocre ffs. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

03-26-2015, 02:08 PM	#103 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	illmatic is more or less universally acknowledged as a classic by the vast majority of people who know/appreciate 90's east coast hip hop where as the albums i mentioned are only really repped by hardcore nas fans

03-26-2015, 02:16 PM	#105 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	no, you can say anything is mediocre if you like i can say beethoven's 9th is mediocre if i like but saying only nas fans rate illmatic is like saying only wu fans rate 36 chambers i.e. makes you sound like you have no clue what you're on about

03-26-2015, 02:22 PM	#107 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	says who? and you should re-read the quote that you "fixed," cause that's exactly what you said.