Illmatic - is it worth the hype?

**Goofle** · 01-03-2013, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Forward To Death

Illmatic is sick. Perfect production, lyricism and flow all the way through.

Will Sessions improved on the production on Elmatic to be fair.

14232949 · 01-03-2013, 12:13 PM

He was using technology from 2011 opposed to what was available to Nas and his production scene in 92/93, and to make what was supposed to be a hardcore NY hip-hop record they weren't going to go all out with flashy production. That wasn't the aim of the album it centred more upon lyrics and story.
So faulting Illmatic because of production is like faulting a Godspeed You! record for its vocals.

**Goofle** · 01-03-2013, 12:21 PM

I was just saying it wasn't perfect, which it isn't.

Forward To Death · 01-03-2013, 01:06 PM

I always loved the production, jazz samples and all. I think it was perfect for what it was, which it is.

14232949 · 01-03-2013, 02:11 PM

The jazz samples come from the family background. Nas's dad was a local jazz musician.

**Janszoon** · 01-03-2013, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Merrycaaant

The jazz samples come from the family background. Nas's dad was a local jazz musician.

The jazz samples come from a couple of producers who were already famous for using jazz samples before anyone had ever heard of Nas.

14232949 · 01-03-2013, 07:12 PM

I didn't mean where they literally came from, but that's the significance of their inclusion on that particular record.

**Janszoon** · 01-03-2013, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Merrycaaant

I didn't mean where they literally came from, but that's the significance of their inclusion on that particular record.

I understand. I meant that the significance really goes back to the actual people who were employing said samples, and had been for quite a few years at that point, not Nas himself.

duotone · 01-04-2013, 03:33 AM

'Sampling Soul' Live Discussion of Nas' Illmatic - Duke on Demand -

I watched this a few months back & found it interesting. For one thing I didnt know he was only 18 when he recorded the album. Apologies if this link was posted earlier in the thread.

**Goofle** · 01-04-2013, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by duotone

'Sampling Soul' Live Discussion of Nas' Illmatic - Duke on Demand -

I watched this a few months back & found it interesting. For one thing I didnt know he was only 18 when he recorded the album. Apologies if this link was posted earlier in the thread.

Sometimes I find things like this annoying. They always come across so undeservedly pretentious.

**rolls eyes at above comment**

01-03-2013, 12:13 PM	#62 (permalink)
14232949 The Big Dog Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,989	He was using technology from 2011 opposed to what was available to Nas and his production scene in 92/93, and to make what was supposed to be a hardcore NY hip-hop record they weren't going to go all out with flashy production. That wasn't the aim of the album it centred more upon lyrics and story. So faulting Illmatic because of production is like faulting a Godspeed You! record for its vocals.

01-03-2013, 01:06 PM	#64 (permalink)
Forward To Death Trolier Than Thou Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,336	I always loved the production, jazz samples and all. I think it was perfect for what it was, which it is.

01-03-2013, 02:11 PM	#65 (permalink)
14232949 The Big Dog Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,989	The jazz samples come from the family background. Nas's dad was a local jazz musician.

01-03-2013, 07:12 PM	#67 (permalink)
14232949 The Big Dog Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,989	I didn't mean where they literally came from, but that's the significance of their inclusion on that particular record.

01-04-2013, 03:33 AM	#69 (permalink)
duotone Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: London Posts: 169	'Sampling Soul' Live Discussion of Nas' Illmatic - Duke on Demand - I watched this a few months back & found it interesting. For one thing I didnt know he was only 18 when he recorded the album. Apologies if this link was posted earlier in the thread.