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Old 01-20-2013, 08:43 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I'll leave this to the experts, I just thought Bigs music was worthy of more than what he gets credit for. Like a lot of artists of yesterday in my opinion.
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Old 01-20-2013, 09:21 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I'll leave this to the experts, I just thought Bigs music was worthy of more than what he gets credit for. Like a lot of artists of yesterday in my opinion.
Fair enough mate.

I think considering his output, he gets enough credit, arguably a little too much. Most Hip-Hop fans regard him as one of the greats and the casual fan would likely include him in their top 5. Not too shabby for 2 albums.
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:51 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I wonder how his subsequent albums would be if Biggie was still alive today.
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Old 01-21-2013, 01:44 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Aceyalone probably has my favourite flow in Hip Hop. "Deep and Wide" is hella crazy. Like being on a slow-moving roller coaster.
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Old 01-21-2013, 10:44 AM   #35 (permalink)
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To answer the lingering queries of this thread;

1. Notorious BIG is in no way under-rated. To imply he doesn't get the credit he deserves is ridiculous. He is heavily touted by fans, fellow rappers and critics alike. Based off the fact he only had two albums, I'd say he is held in too high regard if one were to actually measure his contributions to the genre.

2. If he were alive today, he'd probably have gone down a similar path to Jay-Z and the two would inevitably teamed up, if Biggie had any idea of how to market himself to the changes in the times, he'd probably be a quite successful hip-hop artist who made crossover tracks, similar to Jigga. The whole 'gangster' gimmick wouldn't cut mustard in 2013.

3. Hip-hop is not all about 'hoes n bitches' in 2013. In fact, the last two years have shown just how many diverse, talented hip-hop artists are out there and in my opinion the scene is better than it's ever been. If you want substance, look for it instead of just lazily complaining about what MTV Hits play.
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Old 01-21-2013, 10:48 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Aceyalone probably has my favourite flow in Hip Hop. "Deep and Wide" is hella crazy. Like being on a slow-moving roller coaster.
I've been meaning to check Aceyalone out for a long time. What would you say is his best album?
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Old 01-21-2013, 11:00 AM   #37 (permalink)
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I liked a few Biggie songs not gonna lie, but I always found his slurred/lispy delivery kind of annoying. It was almost like dude needed to blow his nose before recording. I prefer Tupac, granted he wasn't earth shattering either. Far better people from that era that don't get the credit they deserve. For bitches and hoes rap none was better then Too Short. Dude is still lighting a torch in the ****ty small club venues.
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Old 01-21-2013, 11:07 AM   #38 (permalink)
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To answer the lingering queries of this thread;

1. Notorious BIG is in no way under-rated. To imply he doesn't get the credit he deserves is ridiculous. He is heavily touted by fans, fellow rappers and critics alike. Based off the fact he only had two albums, I'd say he is held in too high regard if one were to actually measure his contributions to the genre.

2. If he were alive today, he'd probably have gone down a similar path to Jay-Z and the two would inevitably teamed up, if Biggie had any idea of how to market himself to the changes in the times, he'd probably be a quite successful hip-hop artist who made crossover tracks, similar to Jigga. The whole 'gangster' gimmick wouldn't cut mustard in 2013.

3. Hip-hop is not all about 'hoes n bitches' in 2013. In fact, the last two years have shown just how many diverse, talented hip-hop artists are out there and in my opinion the scene is better than it's ever been. If you want substance, look for it instead of just lazily complaining about what MTV Hits play.
1. 99 percent of people only know Big Poppa and Juicy. Secondly he made 2 albums that influenced more artists that most people could in a lifetime. If you dont think thats true just look how many rappers reference Biggie in their music.

2. That is a complete and total guess. You are seriously saying the rap scene is better than it was in the 90's? That is like like a telling a blues fan the golden day is now and the 60's were nothing. Come on man every rappers favorites albums are even from the 90's. Pac, Em, Biggie, Mobb Deep, Del, Dre, Snoop and soooooooo many more that are considered the most influential rap albums of all time.

3. Um much of the good hip hop from the 90's wasnt all about "hoes and bitches" either. And I would say much more of the mainstream today is.
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I could name about 20-30 rappers off the top of my head that are better lyricists than Biggie.
I wonder how many of those artists took influence from Biggie himself.

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Here's one for you. How can so many people consider Biggie to be one of the greatest of all time based off of two albums?
Because they're both really really good? Take a guess yourself.

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Nobody talks about Big Pun or Big L who had the same number of albums, one studio album and one posthumous release being the greatest of all time despite the fact they were both superior MC's to Notorious BIG.
Big L was ill, no lie. His rhyme schemes weren't nearly as interesting as BIG's, though, which is a large part of his credentials.

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As for his imagery, it's all clichéd as I'd already pointed out, just talk about guns, bitches and pretending to be Al Capone.
It doesn't interest me in the slightest.
This from the guy who digs "Backseat Freestyle."

Ok, in two minutes Biggie dropped lines like:

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wit the Texas license plate outta state
they heard about the pounds
you got down in Georgetown
now they heard you got half of Virginia locked down
they even heard about the crib
you bought your moms out in Florida
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I got the calico with the black talons loaded in the clip
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all purpose war got the rottweilers by the door
and I feed em gun powder so they can devour
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the fifth corridor....
Even if you don't like what he's talking about, it's still vivid.
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I've been meaning to check Aceyalone out for a long time. What would you say is his best album?
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