Bringing the boards to a higher level of discussion and using Macklemore as a vehicle, thats rich buddy. Good luck with your plight Your Highness. :bowdown:

Its nothing a good genocide wouldn't cure.

But in all honesty, the site has problems. Specifically that a strong collection of its uses are terribly closed-minded - and doubly-worse when these individuals believe themselves to be more intelligent, thoughtful, and eclectic.

You joke that I'm bringing the boards to a higher position via Mackelmore, because for a lot of people here that sounds absurd. How could someone so meatheaded do anything but bring the discourse lower?

But the only true about exploring things is that you've either been somewhere or you haven't. And where people don't go - whether its mountain tops or swamplands - is irrelevant. If you want to progress you need to search everything, and you need to get good at scavenging for the quality portions of what you're digging through.

If people want to stay in their preference-bubble, I have no problem with that, so long as they understand a few things:

1. If you're only listening to what you like, then you're limited

2. Just because you like something doesn't make it good

3. Nor does it make other things bad

4. Disliking something because your cultural mores suggest you shouldn't is a terrible way to go through life.

To clarify, if your friends would think less of you for exploring music you need to get better friends, or they need to listen to a broader range of music. I'm living beyond good and evil my friend, and I'd thank you to not force your Christian-trappings of us vs. them on the rest of the good people of Musicbanter.

I've understood all that from the beginning. Perhaps your plight is with someone else. And you might wanna heed some of your own advice because I feel as if you fall into the same trappings you're trying to avoid. I have plenty of discussion with people that enjoy the same style of music I also enjoy. I think the difference in us might be that I don't feel the need for my music to be accepted or appreciated.

I guess I don't grasp the analogy that its us against them either or vice versa, its just another board made for discussion of music, i'm not here to write a thesis or change the World. Best of luck with that.

You mean what you're comfortable with. Nobody listens to music they don't like, that would be foolish.

I'm not taking any of your positions seriously until you stop dodging.

Awfully angry, my friend.

You're fine to have discussions with people who enjoy the same music, but why would anyone feel its acceptable to go into a thread of an artist they acknowledge not enjoying, then deride that artist with internet slang and half-ass'd arguments? That's a general question, and not posed directly at Fred.

I see arguments about music two ways: Either you come into a thread or start one on a topic with genuine concerns (e.g. The teach Janszoon to love the Beatles thread), or people go into a thread to be a negative jackass with no arguments and just hollow opinions defined by social precedent. I think its pretty easy to see that none of the detractors have said anything on par with the aforementioned Beatles thread, but are probably more closely aligned with most of the derisive comments from the Rebecca Black thread.

Now admittedly, that artist (Black) offered very little and so it was difficult to speak positively. But we're dealing with a different caliber artist here, and people who come in picking up the weapons of the Troll are going to look like trolls. But thats not my problem, its theirs.

As for your thesis - I'm here to discuss music in such a fashion that people can yield something from it. And I am here to change perceptions. I fell into the townie-trap of making music an us vs. them game. Then later I thought I was too smart to listen to **** music - but you learn that its something that only holds you back. If I can prevent people from the same fate, or expedite their musical growth then I will.

On Musicbanter, our problem is not failure to have exposure to new music, but failure to see the value in almost all music. Its like having a 747 jet and only using it to take hour trips.

On the subject of what Macklemore sounds an awful lot like, check this for size...



I think someone may be in for a copyright infringement suit.

We were talking about the Pharell similarities a page back, and he's the architect of that great Clipse sound, so you're definitely right there. I actually think it's cool that they took that sound, it's not as exposed as it should be and is very unique. The only person properly noticing Pharell's swag was Tyler, the Creator, and really it's a little loose, leaning more towards the dark Pharell beats (though "Beamer" at the end of "Domo 23" definitely had this laid back aspect down fa sho).

:shycouch:

O thank you savior

You ever post anything that matters?

I'm not gonna egg Brennan on anymore. I think we actually agree in alot of ways. First and foremost it should be a place about discussing music. I think we have a slight different take on what that entails. I don't find it detrimental to discuss a band in a negative light if you feel necessary, but its clear you think that is counterproductive to discussion so duly noted.

Yep, you ignored them to validate your own schizoid little stance.

Macklemore & Ryan Lewis with a Tiger
 

Check out Macklemore & Ryan Lewis with a tiger in the desert

Hate this song.

If you like Mackelmore check out the Blue Scholars. They were actually bigger than Macklemore for years in Seattle before this Thrift shop blew up. They have a similar Seattle Hip Hop sound and Sabzi from Blue Scholars actually produced some of Macklemore's hits like The Town Remix.

The "This is ****ing awesome" line ruins the song for me. Seriously, that sounded so cheesy and childish ugh. But then again, this song does appeal to cheesy children...

IMO an average song in every aspect except lyrics, which are below average.

Blue Scholars is unbelievable. Dear thread: check out Cinemetropolis (the album). To kick that off, here's Cinemetropolis (the song).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUidzvutFTI

What do the cool children listen to?

I'm going to be seeing Macklemore opening for the Roots on 6/1. I'll return with the full report.

That's going to be a hell of a show.

I am not a Macklemore fan, but I can imagine he would be good live.

Getting real tired of you shiz Macklemore. Incredible is pronounced incredi-BULL, not BOWL, you're not black, so stop it.

/rant over.

It should be pretty cool. It's at this all day festival. Grimes, DJ Premier and Naughty by Nature are also playing, along with a whole bunch of people I've never heard of.

Lushlife is quality.

Nice Araab Muzik is going to be there too. The only one I wouldn't care to hear is Trinidad James.

Not a fan. He makes rap seem like its too easy, he reminds me of a trinidad james or 2 chainz.

They're soooo good live.

Racist often?

That festival sounds so ill, and while I think she's very good, Grimes kinda seems like a weird fit here.

Like the song, but the new one that has come out is much better in my opinion. :yeah:

I think the other one is also better than the one before last.

I love mackelmore, he brightens my drive to college up if he comes on the radio. Such catchy, happy songs. Honestly never fails to make me sing along.

talented guys

Not really a wordsmith but his rhyme scheme is not boring and better then a lot of other people coming up. Don't really like his flow but in my opinion his song writing, topics/material is amazing. the topics he hits are well to the point and tackle different areas from politics to everyday life.

Keeping it short he's not my favorite but I think he is a talented song writer.

I don't know what its trivializing though. Homosexuality?

here is the main thread if you couldn't find it.

http://www.musicbanter.com/rap-hip-h...-lewis-11.html

Well could we have a Mod merge these? I don't know if this should be a stand-alone thread.

Basically, but the whole realising that you're different is a huge part of the experience of being queer, not just coming out. It's not something he gets but is appropriating anyway as if he knows the struggle, but he doesn't.

I don't really see it that way. If you're still just talking about the lyrics previously discussed, then I took them to suggest how easily misunderstood the concept of homosexuality is by the general populace (as evidenced by a child thinking they were gay because they liked to draw).

Furthermore, I think it was to highlight that its still looked down upon by the general population and that what it means to be a "***got" - in the minds of the low-minded - is both derogatory, effeminate, and severely misunderstood.

I assume this because in the following lines he's talking about how its used in Youtube comments when its probably not relevant to the discussion in the first place.