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TheBig3 02-08-2013 11:43 AM

Mackelmore & Ryan Lewis
 


A little shocked a forum this savvy to hiphop/rap didn't beat me to this punch but I love the hell out of this jam.

They had a broken keyboard, I bought a broken keyboard.

Goofle 02-08-2013 12:07 PM

I really don't like him at all.

LoathsomePete 02-08-2013 12:16 PM

I remember hearing one of their songs at a bar a few week ago and really liking it, but their album from last year has just been one of those ones that continually slips my mind. One day I will finally sit down and listen to it though.

TheBig3 02-08-2013 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle11 (Post 1283985)
I really don't like him at all.

Feel free to elaborate without fear of retribution.

Phantom Limb 02-08-2013 12:54 PM

He's pretty wack. That's why you haven't heard us talk about him.

Goofle 02-08-2013 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1283989)
Feel free to elaborate without fear of retribution.

He has a boring flow, beats I don't like, corny as hell, preachy st times whilst being a douchebag and there's much better artists I'd rather spend time listening to. Poor man's Brother Ali.

TheBig3 02-08-2013 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete (Post 1283987)
I remember hearing one of their songs at a bar a few week ago and really liking it, but their album from last year has just been one of those ones that continually slips my mind. One day I will finally sit down and listen to it though.

Let me know when you do. I listened to a handful of tracks (Spotify on random) and I really liked it. Its not perfect by any stretch but I thought he was solid, didn't veer into boring or laconic rhymes, had a pretty good track behind him (a little Paul's Boutique influence) and seemed to know when to not take himself too seriously.

I was impressed.

Sparky 02-08-2013 04:26 PM

**** macklemore and his 35 year old hipster bitch persona LOL

Zebras 02-08-2013 05:11 PM

Easily, one of the best performers in his genre I've ever seen. I think he has some great face-value lyrics - I would agree that most of his stuff isn't too deep. But I think it's well written, fun when it needs to be, and I'd say Ryan Lewis's beats are one of the duo's strengths.

Here's a handful of other tunes to check out:
Macklemore x Ryan Lewis "WINGS" Official Music Video - YouTube
MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS - SAME LOVE feat. MARY LAMBERT (OFFICIAL VIDEO) - YouTube
Macklemore & Ryan Lewis - Neon Cathedral ft Allen Stone - YouTube
MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS - "Irish Celebration" (Official Music Video) - YouTube
Macklemore and Ryan Lewis - My Oh My (Official Video) - YouTube

TheBig3 02-08-2013 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 1284070)
**** macklemore and his 35 year old hipster bitch persona LOL

This is what I read any time I hear haters.

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Originally Posted by Zebras (Post 1284077)
Easily, one of the best performers in his genre I've ever seen. I think he has some great face-value lyrics - I would agree that most of his stuff isn't too deep. But I think it's well written, fun when it needs to be, and I'd say Ryan Lewis's beats are one of the duo's strengths.

Here's a handful of other tunes to check out:

Macklemore x Ryan Lewis "WINGS" Official Music Video - YouTube

MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS - SAME LOVE feat. MARY LAMBERT (OFFICIAL VIDEO) - YouTube

Macklemore & Ryan Lewis - Neon Cathedral ft Allen Stone - YouTube

MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS - "Irish Celebration" (Official Music Video) - YouTube

Macklemore and Ryan Lewis - My Oh My (Official Video) - YouTube

Amen, sir.

A-men.

Circe 02-12-2013 10:04 AM

I've always had a soft spot in my heart for those unapologetically uncool and ridiculous artists and.. well, the coat in Thrift Shop says it all. But on a serious note, I do like the duo quite a bit. They may not be mind-blowing and innovative in either lyrics or production but they're still good fun to listen to and it's always great for me to like a song that absolutely everyone else I know likes.

14232949 02-12-2013 10:28 AM

I don't get it. I just don't get it. I see no redeeming qualities in this guys music.
It seems to me like a record company picked a random white middle aged man and decided to make him a 'rap star' hoping he'd appeal to people wanting a cleaner, safer alternative to those typical hip-hop hooligans.
He's similar to LMFAO, but not funny nor does he retain any of the novelty.

djchameleon 02-12-2013 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mankycaaant (Post 1285527)
I don't get it. I just don't get it. I see no redeeming qualities in this guys music.
It seems to me like a record company picked a random white middle aged man and decided to make him a 'rap star' hoping he'd appeal to people wanting a cleaner, safer alternative to those typical hip-hop hooligans.
He's similar to LMFAO, but not funny nor does he retain any of the novelty.

He's been like this for so long and he's independent.
I understand that you don't like his image but he isn't something that was manufactured by a record label.


I downloaded his album when it first came out and burned through a couple of tracks til I was tired of them.

When I first heard "Can't Hold Us", I swore that he got John Legend as the feature to sing the hook but it ended up being Ray Dalton that sounds similar to him.

One of my favorite tracks is Jimmy Iovine, the beat seems like it would be better for a throwaway club track but instead he uses it to talk about meeting with an exec. for a deal with a label.


TheBig3 02-16-2013 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1285639)
He's been like this for so long and he's independent.
I understand that you don't like his image but he isn't something that was manufactured by a record label.


I downloaded his album when it first came out and burned through a couple of tracks til I was tired of them.

When I first heard "Can't Hold Us", I swore that he got John Legend as the feature to sing the hook but it ended up being Ray Dalton that sounds similar to him.

One of my favorite tracks is Jimmy Iovine, the beat seems like it would be better for a throwaway club track but instead he uses it to talk about meeting with an exec. for a deal with a label.


There's a saying in politics "Don't waste your time arguing with a person who's got a vested interest in not being convinced."

Enter Mankycat.

He's in the business of being the angry guy with so much taste he can't relate to the common man. Occasionally we're told we can't argue with him because he just played to a really tough crowd. (He's in the comedy business but you wouldn't know it from his comments or musical interests).

He has opinions. And he took them with himself when he ran off to bury his head in the sand. By the by, how are you DJ. Its been awhile.

Sparky 02-17-2013 11:47 AM

macklemore does make me nervous, can't help it.

whats goin on

14232949 02-17-2013 11:54 AM

I don't think it takes a discriminative taste to see the contrived nature of this 'hip' song. As I said I don't even see the novelty value in it.
Also, I'm not here to entertain, I'm here to keep the music discussion flowing which is why I give my opinions, I am of the opinion that this particular artist sucks.

Goofle 02-17-2013 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mankycaaant (Post 1287397)
I don't think it takes a discriminative taste to see the contrived nature of this 'hip' song. As I said I don't even see the novelty value in it.
Also, I'm not here to entertain, I'm here to keep the music discussion flowing which is why I give my opinions, I am of the opinion that this particular artist sucks.

:clap:

TheBig3 02-17-2013 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mankycaaant (Post 1287397)
I don't think it takes a discriminative taste to see the contrived nature of this 'hip' song. As I said I don't even see the novelty value in it.
Also, I'm not here to entertain, I'm here to keep the music discussion flowing which is why I give my opinions, I am of the opinion that this particular artist sucks.

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Originally Posted by Goofle11 (Post 1287407)
:clap:

The both of you should understand the difference between offering your opinion by saying something suck, and saying why you think it sucks. Contrived is also non-progressive. If you can't explain why you don't like something, socialize with your friends who share your values so you can get by on this sort of laconic, nondescript jibberish.

Sparky 02-17-2013 05:39 PM

macklemore has nothing to say

his topics range from shopping at thrift stores to his favorite sports teams. It's music that celebrates the privileged nature of his life.

His cadence sounds forced, the beats may occasionally be playful but otherwise are very bland. I could see his music coming on right after "wonderwall" or something.

No semblance of anything i like about hip hop in his music.

Janszoon 02-17-2013 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mankycaaant (Post 1285527)
I don't get it. I just don't get it. I see no redeeming qualities in this guys music.
It seems to me like a record company picked a random white middle aged man and decided to make him a 'rap star' hoping he'd appeal to people wanting a cleaner, safer alternative to those typical hip-hop hooligans.
He's similar to LMFAO, but not funny nor does he retain any of the novelty.

The guy is 29. He's not middle aged.

TheBig3 02-17-2013 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1287471)
The guy is 29. He's not middle aged.

Yeah, Maanky doesn't let facts get in the way of a bad argument. Also, I think he's projected your feelings of race into this. People who find hip-hop "hooligans" (my ancestors are insulted, by the way, you Scottish ****) distasteful aren't telling their granddaughters "thank heavens for the second coming of vanilla ice."

Engine 02-17-2013 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1287500)
Yeah, Maanky doesn't let facts get in the way of a bad argument. Also, I think he's projected your feelings of race into this. People who find hip-hop "hooligans" (my ancestors are insulted, by the way, you Scottish ****) distasteful aren't telling their granddaughters "thank heavens for the second coming of vanilla ice."

haha, who are your ancestors, Big3? I'm just curious.
Whatever the case, this is some pretty bad music that you've posted.
Perhaps "it is dull, mostly so bad that it verges into unlistenable territory" is not a good enough argument for you and your people but it's all I've got at the moment :)

TheBig3 02-17-2013 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1287506)
haha, who are your ancestors, Big3? I'm just curious.
Whatever the case, this is some pretty bad music that you've posted.
Perhaps "it is dull, mostly so bad that it verges into unlistenable territory" is not a good enough argument for you and your people but it's all I've got at the moment :)

Those are two separate things. My ancestors have nothing to do with the lot of you masturbating to the Smiths and lacking a sense of humor.

They do however hate your Irish slurs. The Irish ones anyway.

I think I like music like this and Ke$ha more because it really turns the screws of people who just suck at life and can only hear this music and assume its the theme songs of the kids who took their lunch money in middle school.

If you folks would stop having sex with black-clad community theater grips, you might actually enjoy life. This sort of music, to me, is a great to turn on and then - when you see people who are cringing - know ahead of time that they're the sort of people who bring up the gender-wage gap at parties when everyone is just trying to forget about their problems.

Its music, you god damn nerds. Stop reading **** like it has to be your graduate thesis.

Sparky 02-17-2013 09:39 PM

i can't believe you used the term, "suck at life" lol

that was a breakdown

TheBig3 02-17-2013 09:44 PM

Its a weak argument that attacks the person, not the point.

Just admit you've lost and I won't set you on fire.

Sparky 02-17-2013 09:51 PM

please set me on fire?

i win i win

Surell 02-17-2013 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1287512)
I think I like music like this and Ke$ha more because it really turns the screws of people who just suck at life and can only hear this music and assume its the theme songs of the kids who took their lunch money in middle school.

Ke$ha has good synths but her cheery new junk is just, like, bleah; the melody sucks, her voice is grody, the lyrics are vaguely NWO. Now Katy Perry? That white bitch did G funk justice, minus the AKs..

Quote:

If you folks would stop having sex with black-clad community theater grips, you might actually enjoy life.
Dude, don't you, like, listen to Modest Mouse?

btw good sex leather doesn't come in any other color.

Violent & Funky 02-18-2013 12:12 AM

I first heard of Macklemore a few years ago and always thought he had some decent material. His biggest problem was he could never get a full length album out because of his drug problems. It was never his lack of hooks or "image".

And the horns in 'Thrift Shop' are righteous. :yeah:

Anyways, he's got plenty to say in these two older tracks I'm most keen of:




Engine 02-18-2013 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1287512)
Its music, you god damn nerds. Stop reading **** like it has to be your graduate thesis.

No problem. I'll stop doing that. Note that all I said about the music you posted is that it sounds silly and bad to me.
My curiosity about your ethnic heritage was just a side note, since you brought it up.
Maybe get back to me about either of those things when you're in graduate school?

14232949 02-18-2013 11:38 AM

Big3 I have no idea what has wound you up, perhaps you're this guys biggest fanboy or something, I don't know why it's so hard for you to comprehend that there are people out there who don't like gimmicky try-hard pop rappers.
The track Thrift Shop is like a Weird Al Yankovic B-side, the lyrics are dumb, his attempts at humour are lame and the whole thing smacks of falsity.
I'm not a fan of parody tracks when they're done well, I prefer either serious material or lighter material that is either one of the following; fun, clever, catchy, relatable or memorable. The Thrift Shop song is not any of the qualities in my eyes.

Maybe if I was a suburban kid who thinks that The Lonely Island are hysterical then I could get behind this, but I'm not so I don't get it.
I assume Macklemore's fans are the same people who rate Hoodie Allen. It's hip-hop music for people who don't like hip-hop music.

TheBig3 02-18-2013 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1287578)
No problem. I'll stop doing that. Note that all I said about the music you posted is that it sounds silly and bad to me.
My curiosity about your ethnic heritage was just a side note, since you brought it up.
Maybe get back to me about either of those things when you're in graduate school?

I am. Balls in your court.

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Originally Posted by Mankycaaant (Post 1287680)
Big3 I have no idea what has wound you up, perhaps you're this guys biggest fanboy or something, I don't know why it's so hard for you to comprehend that there are people out there who don't like gimmicky try-hard pop rappers.
The track Thrift Shop is like a Weird Al Yankovic B-side, the lyrics are dumb, his attempts at humour are lame and the whole thing smacks of falsity.
I'm not a fan of parody tracks when they're done well, I prefer either serious material or lighter material that is either one of the following; fun, clever, catchy, relatable or memorable. The Thrift Shop song is not any of the qualities in my eyes.

Maybe if I was a suburban kid who thinks that The Lonely Island are hysterical then I could get behind this, but I'm not so I don't get it.
I assume Macklemore's fans are the same people who rate Hoodie Allen. It's hip-hop music for people who don't like hip-hop music.

Wound up? I'm fine. Admittedly, I'm on the aggressive side in here, but I am because I don't think you have a case against this music. I think you've run away from fun music because you hate the general clientele that listen to it. If I thought you had a point in all this, I wouldn't care.

But I have a sneaking suspicion you're against this stuff because you're busy fighting some us-vs.-them proxy war against d-bags. I can't fault you for that, but you shouldn't take it out on fun music. I mean, for god sakes, when you get drunk what do you dance to?

Engine 02-18-2013 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1287684)
I am. Balls in your court.

That's all I had. Take it... :basketbal

Phantom Limb 02-18-2013 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mankycaaant (Post 1287680)
It's hip-hop music for people who don't like hip-hop music.

This is true.

TheBig3 02-18-2013 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom Limb (Post 1287692)
This is true.

Now explain to me what this genre is. Because I know a lot of people who don't like hip hop and they seem to ****ing love Slayer. Would they like this?

What about people who only listen to techno? They'd presumably not like hip hop, and they'd also presumably not like this. But since your rule counteracts interest in so far as anyone not liking hip hop must love this music, please tell me how the laws work in this regard.

Furthermore, if people do like this music, does it preclude them from listening to hip hop, or is this more of a unidirectional law?

Lovingly,
The Big 3

14232949 02-18-2013 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1287684)
I am. Balls in your court.



Wound up? I'm fine. Admittedly, I'm on the aggressive side in here, but I am because I don't think you have a case against this music. I think you've run away from fun music because you hate the general clientele that listen to it. If I thought you had a point in all this, I wouldn't care.

But I have a sneaking suspicion you're against this stuff because you're busy fighting some us-vs.-them proxy war against d-bags. I can't fault you for that, but you shouldn't take it out on fun music. I mean, for god sakes, when you get drunk what do you dance to?

Surprisingly, I'm one of the guys less likely to pick that fight. I seem to be Music Banter's one man Kanye West bandwagon, and I love campy 80's pop music, as well as a lot of the stuff that gets radio play. I just don't resonate with this particular artist at all and I'm not in on the joke; which seems a little low brow anyway.

TheBig3 02-18-2013 03:11 PM

As long as you'll admit that those who do get the joke are knuckle-dragging cro-mags who drink Budweiser and say "bro" non-ironically.

Violent & Funky 02-18-2013 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1287717)
As long as you'll admit that those who do get the joke are knuckle-dragging cro-mags who drink Budweiser and say "bro" non-ironically.

:love:

Sparky 02-18-2013 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1287684)
I mean, for god sakes, when you get drunk what do you dance to?

not ****ing macklemore

TheBig3 02-18-2013 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 1287726)
not ****ing macklemore

Another non-answer from the pseudo-intellectual crowd.

Feel free to answer the question anytime you'd like there, Chartley.

Sparky 02-18-2013 03:30 PM

u so smart big3

u got me


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