The Official 'Ice Cube Doesn't Get The Credit He Deserves' Thread

[Rjinn]

Originally Posted by realtalk92

How do you know I don't read them?

You obviously don't read them

Just because I wouldn't buy it does not mean when I am at the grocery store or if Im at a library I don't read them


And Ive already said what he deserves more credit in which is pioneering gangsta rap, his influence and for his songwriting.

No you're giving a reason why he should get "more credit" while failing to mention what that credit is.

From what I can tell right now is just exposure.

[Soulflower]

Originally Posted by Forward To Death

The dude's often considered to be the driving force of the band that put gangsta rap on the map.

Eazy E mostly gets that credit since he founded the group and Ruthless Records.

I never hear Ice Cube cited as the driving force behind the band by the media.

[Soulflower]

Originally Posted by Rjinn

No you're giving a reason why he should get "more credit" while failing to mention what that credit is.

From what I can tell right now is just exposure.

Ive stated these reasons through out this thread

AND

I have also stated what the "credit" should be which I feel should be accolades and praises which does not necessarily have to be in the form of an award.

[Forward To Death]

Originally Posted by realtalk92

Eazy E mostly gets that credit since he founded the group and Ruthless Records.

I never hear Ice Cube cited as the driving force behind the band by the media.

Eazy E didn't write a single song, hell Ice Cube had a good hand in Eazy's best solo album, and I've never heard anyone say "Eazy E was the brains behind NWA" from a credible source. Ice Cube is always cited, seeing as he wrote most of the songs, and was easily the most prominent rapper on what is easily their best album. He literally gets most of the credit for Straight Outta Compton, which if anything, is one of the most overrated albums of the 1990s. I love the album, but I've heard much better. I think I like Ice Cube's solo work better.

[Rjinn]

So what are these "accolades and praises that don't necessarily have to be in the form of an award" and "magazines, documentaries, etc. which is nothing more than media exposure" are you talking about?

I vote he should be built a church.

[Forward To Death]

Meme on Reddit=Not underrated.

[Soulflower]

Originally Posted by Forward To Death

Eazy E didn't write a single song, hell Ice Cube had a good hand in Eazy's best solo album, and I've never heard anyone say "Eazy E was the brains behind NWA" from a credible source.

I know this already you don't have to tell me this lol

Tell the media that...

Eazy E is presented as the dominate driving force behind the group, not Ice Cube.

I do love Eazy by the way.

Originally Posted by Forward To Death

Ice Cube is always cited, seeing as he wrote most of the songs, and was easily the most prominent rapper on what is easily their best album.

He literally gets most of the credit for Straight Outta Compton, which if anything, is one of the most overrated albums of the 1990s. I love the album, but I've heard much better. I think I like Ice Cube's solo work better.

I don't think that album is overrated. I think it deserves the credit it gets.

Ice Cube may be cited as a songwriter but he has never been cited as the driving force or the main center of the group like you are implying.

[Soulflower]

Originally Posted by Rjinn

So what are these "accolades and praises that don't necessarily have to be in the form of an award" and "magazines, documentaries, etc. which is nothing more than media exposure" are you talking about?

I vote he should be built a church.

LOL


Being acknowledge for what you have done for a genre is different from "media exposure". Anybody can get media exposure for doing anything. I just think when they do different segments discussing hip hop that he can be mentioned as one of the pioneers or when they do different tributes discussing pioneers that helped changed hip hop he should be mentioned. When these urban magazines or music magazines do their commentary they could cite him more.

Just another ex.
Frankie Beverly and Maze won a Lifetime Achievement Award 2 years ago on BET but it doesn't necessarily mean their musical influence is not underrated.

[Rjinn]

Yes but all you're doing is targeting media publications as if that's the only thing that matters.

[Forward To Death]

Originally Posted by realtalk92

I know this already you don't have to tell me this lol

Tell the media that...

Eazy E is presented as the dominate driving force behind the group, not Ice Cube.

I do love Eazy by the way.

I love Eazy too, his style is almost unmatched IMO. I just like hearing his voice and delivery. He makes every song more interesting, and I do consider him a driving force, but that doesn't change the fact that Ice Cube gets most of the credit. I've never seen the media give credit to Eazy, and if they do it's probably because they're always trying to inflate someone's legacy when they've died, even if it's at the expense of others who are still living. I doubt Ice Cube minds, he's making millions, and has a fantastic catalog that he will live off of if his acting career or rapping career take any sort of nosedive.

Not to mention, he has one of the most impressive musical resumes of any rapper of any decade.

I don't think that album is overrated. I think it deserves the credit it gets.

Ice Cube may be cited as a songwriter but he has never been cited as the driving force or the main center of the group like you are implying.

It probably does, but I don't think it's as great as most people seem to think. It's a very good album, and I'm glad I have it, but some people act like it's the Holy Grail of hip-hop. It's certainly one of the most important records in the history of the genre.

How does he not? He literally gets most of the credit, and I'm not talking about subjective opinions, I'm talking about facts, he wrote most of the music.