Why is modern Hip-Hop music, aswell as mainstream pop so hated by people?

Sparky · 08-21-2014, 01:35 PM

john lennon also had "why don't we do it in the road" right

~~Soulflower~~ · 08-21-2014, 02:08 PM

Why do people have to put down credible artists for these pop tarts?

I am not even a huge Beatles fan but just saying...

DwnWthVwls · 08-25-2014, 07:59 PM

Pretty sure the "not real music" rant is a modern phenomenon and didn't happen back in the 80s or even 90s. I don't remember a single person saying that during my youth.

Devil music? Bad influence? sure. But no one accused them of not producing real *insert genre here*.

**Frownland** · 08-25-2014, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Pretty sure the "not real music" rant is a modern phenomenon and didn't happen back in the 80s or even 90s. I don't remember a single person saying that during my youth.

Devil music? Bad influence? sure. But no one accused them of not producing real *insert genre here*.

It's kind of an old adage against more experimental artists. Back in 1902 (? Don't quote me on that date) Luigi Russulo premiered The Art of Noise and people were so upset by it 'not being real music' that a riot broke out. This happened at every one of his shows. A lot of John Cage's works, most notably 4'33" but also his tapeworks, were belittled as not being music either. Hell, even Bach was ridiculed by some critics as being to contrived and pointless to be music. Hip-hop was pretty different from the standards most people had for music at the time and some sucked up the new sound and others whined about the newest 'not music' in town.

djchameleon · 08-25-2014, 09:54 PM

Along with them whining about the newest not music. They also put on expiration date on the style saying that it is a new fad that won't last and will be going away soon. The same argument that people use whenever a new genre/sub genre pops up that they don't like.

DwnWthVwls · 08-25-2014, 09:59 PM

Thanks, Frown. Interesting history there. So much for my claims.

wedoitfortheloveofmusic · 09-17-2014, 07:55 PM

The best way to put it...internet gangsters. The internet has given every tom, dick, and harry a platform to voice their opinion. This is a great thing of course but the downside to that is...every tom, dick, and harry has a platform to voice their opinion and a lot of it is ignorant shat...unfortunately. Like some of the other guys said, it's an opinion. Weed through the bs. If your interested in comment look for the ones that actually offer some value.

greatbernard · 09-27-2014, 09:31 AM

Youtube is a cesspool for idiots and its not a fair representation of people overall.

Modern hiphop is hated because of nostalgia bias. They're forgetting that the 90's and 80's had lots of novelty acts and one-hit wonders that didn't work out well either.

And that most rappers back then rapped about weed and sex as well.

~~Soulflower~~ · 09-28-2014, 06:31 PM

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Youtube is a cesspool for idiots and its not a fair representation of people overall.

Modern hiphop is hated because of nostalgia bias. They're forgetting that the 90's and 80's had lots of novelty acts and one-hit wonders that didn't work out well either.

And that most rappers back then rapped about weed and sex as well.

I don't understand why people always make this argument any time someone constructively criticizes a current artist. We get that every generation had their share of mediocre acts or bubble gum acts but there is an undeniable increase of them in today's mainstream compared to previous decades.

Bone thugs talked about weed and sex too but I would take them over somebody like Lil Wayne or Drake because at least there was some level of artistry behind it.

DwnWthVwls · 09-28-2014, 08:32 PM

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I don't understand why Soulflower always makes this argument any time someone constructively criticizes a current artist.

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at least there was some level of artistry behind it.

Blindly discredit those you don't like and everyone you do like is underrated. Every thread you post in.

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wedoitfortheloveofmusic Groupie Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Miami Posts: 17	The best way to put it...internet gangsters. The internet has given every tom, dick, and harry a platform to voice their opinion. This is a great thing of course but the downside to that is...every tom, dick, and harry has a platform to voice their opinion and a lot of it is ignorant shat...unfortunately. Like some of the other guys said, it's an opinion. Weed through the bs. If your interested in comment look for the ones that actually offer some value.

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greatbernard Groupie Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 1	Youtube is a cesspool for idiots and its not a fair representation of people overall. Modern hiphop is hated because of nostalgia bias. They're forgetting that the 90's and 80's had lots of novelty acts and one-hit wonders that didn't work out well either. And that most rappers back then rapped about weed and sex as well.