Really? Outkast somehow gets a pass?

i say Eminem > Outkast

Lol Agree!

But Kanye is more than an MC, which is why he will be remembered for a long time aka legend. Legends can be notorious for things, that doesn't disqualify them.

Do you mean you think he's better or he's had more of an impact? Outkast are absolutely massive. Eminem is the bigger celebrity but, Speakerboxxx/TLB is the highest selling Hip-Hop album of all time & they've sold more in total than Kanye despite not putting an album out in a decade. Kanye hasn't had a track as big as Hey Ya. Everyone and their gran knows it. I don't even think Eminem has had a track that big.

& I can hear quite a bit of Outkast in a few artists as well. Some of the shit Kendrick has put out sounds ridiculous (Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe, Money Trees... & have you heard 'I'? It's uncanny. Sounds exactly like something Andre would have done around 2003-5).

The only people I can hear Eminem in are shit rappers like Princess Superstar.

Thats just it I find his producing deplorable also. Sure hes a hitmaker, but mainstream autotune/lame keyboard tracks have never impressed me. Sure they impress the sheep. Let them have it, Hes awful.

@Black Francis actually researching a bit, seems Speakerboxxx/TLB sold 5.5m but it's counted as 11m cos it's a double album. Take that back.

Outkast are up there since the 90s onwards anyway, better than Eminem.

Southernplaya - ATLiens - Aquemini - Stankonia - Speakerboxxx/TLB

One of the greatest runs of albums in Hip-Hop history surely.

lol make me :ar_15s:

If influence and impact are valid justifications for Kanye certainly Eminem deserves the legendary status of being the iconic white rapper who showed the mainstream white boys can rap.

Add to that white or not.. he can rap, and he can battle rap too.. he's a bit overrated by now but his lyrics have gotten better and as doofy as he can be few rappers dare diss him cause he's one of those mc's who raps even better when he is dissin ppl.

Outkast are in the upper tier of legends but Kanye has influenced basically every rapper or producer who's well known right now.

I don't find that to be a good thing.

But we aren't discussing personal musical preference in fairness.