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Cuthbert 02-27-2015 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1557856)
lol make me :ar_15s:

lol m8

That was my fault sorry. What I meant was, I am taking back the claim that Speakerboxxx/TLB is the highest selling album in Hip-Hop history. It can't be cos it only sold 5.5m units but it's counted as double (11m) cos technically it's two albums. Seems pretty stupid tbh.

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If influence and impact are valid justifications for Kanye certainly Eminem deserves the legendary status of being the iconic white rapper who showed the mainstream white boys can rap.
Yeah fair enough.

Black Francis 02-27-2015 11:05 AM

I haven't listened to alot of outkast so i can't speak on their favour but ive followed Eminem's career since he started and he went from a goofy white boy who made fun of himself as Slim shady to a legit rap icon.

Cuthbert 02-27-2015 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1557886)
I haven't listened to alot of outkast so i can't speak on their favour but ive followed Eminem's career since he started and he went from a goofy white boy who made fun of himself as Slim shady to a legit rap icon.

You should imo.

Should get Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik and work your way forward. My favourite of theirs is ATLiens but it's worth starting at the beginning and listening to how their sound changed. You'll probably like them, they've got something for everyone tbh.

John Wilkes Booth 02-27-2015 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1557816)
Lets say after 1997. I can't think of anyone who has had more impact in the genre in the mainstream, even seeping into the underground.

Jay z, imo

Even weezy, arguably

Soulflower 02-27-2015 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1557943)
Jay z, imo

Even weezy, arguably

He is the most overrated rapper of all time and I respectfully disagree.

Frownland 02-27-2015 02:08 PM

I'd like to see Killer Mike achieve this status. I think he's gotten into the public eye enough but I don't think he's at that status yet. I feel like he reached his full potential with RAP Music but hasn't hit that level since. Hopefully he does and solidifies his part in hip hop culture.

FRED HALE SR. 02-27-2015 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1557875)
But we aren't discussing personal musical preference in fairness.

I understand that which is why I'm not taking anything anyone has said as a basis for declaring him a legend when hes just one in his own mind.

John Wilkes Booth 02-27-2015 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower (Post 1557954)
He is the most overrated rapper of all time and I respectfully disagree.

overrated or not he had a bigger impact on rap than kanye imo

i would add eminem to that list as well

FRED HALE SR. 02-27-2015 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1558009)
overrated or not he had a bigger impact on rap than kanye imo

i would add eminem to that list as well

I'd say Jay and Kanye are pretty equal for impact honestly. I'd give the street cred argument to Jay though and think he has more spit in his game and ability on the mic. Eminem is a better MC then either one of those guys.

John Wilkes Booth 02-27-2015 06:11 PM

i would argue jay's impact is much more noticeable than kanye's. i'm really curious to hear people's opinions on how it is kanye has impacted rap music beyond making a name for himself. kanye is probably on equal footing in terms of his celebrity status... but as far as hip hop goes jay sort of carried the torch after biggie died and influenced a whole new generation of 'drug lord' persona rappers with crossover pop appeal. wayne was probably the biggest and most notable one, and he clearly takes after jay-z and cites him as his favorite rapper. but you also have young jeezy/rick ross/gucci mane/[insert trap oriented rapper here]... i'm sure most of you probably see this as a bad impact and i'd partially agree but it is a pretty noticable impact nonetheless

and tbh i think biggie is probably the most influential rapper of the last 20 or so years for this very reason.. arguably the most influential rapper since rakim imo

also there was the jay/nas beef which was easily the biggest hip hop beef since the east/west fued and at least partially gave a sort of resurgence to nas's career

not to mention jay put kanye on the map and thus is partially responsible for his impact as well



edit - also, i like em and i could honestly see why people would say he's better than jay but i honestly disagree. i'm in the minority in this opinion on here, i'm sure. to me, reasonable doubt alone > anything eminem has ever done. either way i don't think kanye should be mentioned in the same sentence as either of them in terms of rap skill. even wayne is miles ahead of kanye imo and he gets hated on relentlessly by internet fans who at the same time give the nod to kanye... i will never understand it


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