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Soulflower 02-28-2015 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1558126)
pretty sure she was talking about jay z

but you're both wrong ;)

Wrong about what?

Goofle 02-28-2015 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower (Post 1558154)
LOL



Why do you think this?

Personal preference. Worse rapper but greater musician/artist.

Soulflower 02-28-2015 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1558172)
Personal preference. Worse rapper but greater musician/artist.


I agree. Kanye is a better producer and his first few albums were good but he is not better than 2pac, nope...imo ;)

Frownland 02-28-2015 09:44 AM

Yeezus is better than anything from the mattress and sleeping pill factory that Tupac must have produced his music in. Biggie, I'm a little lighter on, I'd say some of his stuff is on the same level as Yeezus. Biggie's material is better than any of other of Kanye's though, Yeezus is the only one I like.

Janszoon 02-28-2015 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1558193)
Yeezus is better than anything from the mattress and sleeping pill factory that Tupac must have produced his music in. Biggie, I'm a little lighter on, I'd say some of his stuff is on the same level as Yeezus. Biggie's material is better than any of other of Kanye's though, Yeezus is the only one I like.

That exactly sums up my feelings as well.

Soulflower 02-28-2015 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1558193)
Yeezus is better than anything from the mattress and sleeping pill factory that Tupac must have produced his music in. Biggie, I'm a little lighter on, I'd say some of his stuff is on the same level as Yeezus. Biggie's material is better than any of other of Kanye's though, Yeezus is the only one I like.


You honestly that album is better than this album?

http://www.xxlmag.com/wp-content/upl...heory-pred.jpg

I don't think so.


Yeezus is probably one of Kanye's weakest albums in recent years.

How is Yeezus, an album filled with derogatory messages, slurs, arrogance, gimmick themes and generic concepts better than this socially political risky album?

Kanye's lyrics on the album are "mindless" and it lacks a message. Please explain how this is better than 7 theory which I consider one of the greatest rap albums ever made.

Production is not everything in terms of music. For me, there has to be some type of message in the music or meaningfulness which Yeezus lacks.

Frownland 02-28-2015 10:32 AM

Kanye's a terrible emcee. His production made up for a lot of that once I learned to ignore him a little bit, there's a lot of texture. Tupac never had that and I'm not a fan of his emceeing, sorry about that. It's cool if you dig him though.

Underground legends: dälek



Love their collab with Faust.

Soulflower 02-28-2015 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1558208)
Kanye's a terrible emcee. His production made up for a lot of that once I learned to ignore him a little bit, there's a lot of texture. Tupac never had that and I'm not a fan of his emceeing, sorry about that. It's cool if you dig him though.
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Once again production is not the defining end all be all that measures the quality of an album. Sometimes it is often used as a distraction which in this case I think Kanye was aiming towards. The lyrics on Yeezus album are empty and are very derogatory. I think it is almost laughable you think that album is better than anything 2pac has ever done.

Cuthbert 02-28-2015 11:13 AM

Kanye hasn't got close to Me Against The World.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96LqAdngoCs

Frownland 02-28-2015 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower (Post 1558213)
Once again production is not the defining end all be all that measures the quality of an album. Sometimes it is often used as a distraction which in this case I think Kanye was aiming towards. The lyrics on Yeezus album are empty and are very derogatory. I think it is almost laughable you think that album is better than anything 2pac has ever done.

So? I think that in Yeezus's case, the production is the best part which is why I like the album so much. Who cares about defining it on all qualities of whatever odd set of standards you have? I like hip hop with great production and Yeezus is an example of that. I don't care if it's a distraction, it's what gets me about the album. I don't like the production on Tupac's music to be entirely honest, should I degrade you for only considering Tupac great because of his emceeing styles? The production is just a distraction, after all.

Sometimes people have different opinions about music or how they enjoy music than you, sorry to break this fact to you. It really comes down to personal preference and it seems like you have a hard time understanding my side in this case even though I'm explaining it to you.


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