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Old 09-20-2016, 12:15 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Run the Jewels straddles the fence between mainstream and underground, but I'd say that their lyrics prove you wrong on the homogeneity of rap lyrics.
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Old 09-20-2016, 12:20 PM   #42 (permalink)
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A few big problems with your reasoning:

let me answer these if i can....

* Choosing to focus on particular subject matter doesn't imply that one isn't familiar with other subject matter.......
of course you are right. thats not the poit i was making. of course the writers of most popular rap are aware of other subject matters, they just dont write about them. You never hear for example, a political rick ross song and he is a very popular rapper



* No matter what or how many other things you write lyrics about, there's more to life than that. So that criticism goes for everything.

Absoultuely correct again, but if there is more to life why not write about it? for example, people get bored of Meek Mill always talking about his rolex. he is only now starting to realise that.

* You're apparently operating with a supposition that lyrics are supposed to capture some particular cross-section of life experiences. What's the support for the idea that that's what lyrics are supposed to be doing?

This is not the point i was making. So this point doesnt really apply. You dont have to write about any paticualr thing. its just interesting to me that a lot of "popular" rap is about the same kind of thing, where as popular indie explores a variety of themes that you nevr hear in hip hop. One being slef deprecation. its juts not cool to do that in hip hop, where you always have to say you are the best and no one is better than you, which is pretty silly.

I'm also guessing that maybe you're some sort of value objectivist. Value objectivism is factually errant.
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of course there will be rappers that go against what i have said but, most rap is about the same stuff. Facts

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Run the Jewels straddles the fence between mainstream and underground, but I'd say that their lyrics prove you wrong on the homogeneity of rap lyrics.
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Old 09-20-2016, 12:28 PM   #44 (permalink)
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of course there will be rappers that go against what i have said but, most rap is about the same stuff.
TFW those rappers existing proves you wrong.
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TFW those rappers existing proves you wrong.
In fairness, he did say popular.
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In fairness, he did say popular.
...and? RTJ is mad popular.
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...and? RTJ is mad popular.
I'm not saying I agree. He's saying that popular rap music is ignorant. I think his point is that the majority of popular rap is ignorant. Again, not something I agree with.
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Old 09-20-2016, 12:35 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Meh. I'm not much for goalpost shifting.
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TFW those rappers existing proves you wrong.
Ok, yeah. you are right. I just realised. thanks
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Simply put, "conscious" rap is usually boring and people listen to music to be entertained; not to be enlightened.
Great point.
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