Lucem Ferre

Pfffft. ****ing Minaj of course.

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MicShazam

Could emphasized, which means that it could also not.

Like I said somewhere elsewhere recently, I avoid "serious" MB discussions about politics and such because there's just too many strong opinions with flimsy backing.

Not really a holier than thou attitude. When I studied, I did learn to recognize an argument that would stand up to scrutiny in an academic paper from one that wouldn't. But I don't consider myself very able to make solid arguments about serious things. I just choose to stay out instead of having to regret what I said later.

Many people would rather have their heated discussions regardless. That's how it becomes an endless cycle of mudslinging - because no one is doing anything to further the discussion. It just quickly stalls and people keep repeating themselves.

Oriphiel

I don't know man, I could see Cardi being like a rogue replicant in the next Blade Runner

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If you hear the term "half-literate" and choose to associate it with black people, that makes YOU the racist.

LAME RETORT: "But he was TALKING about people that are black."

Yes, but he never once mentioned their ethnicities. He criticized their lack of verbal aptitude, which is found in all races, unfortunately.

Lucem Ferre

Except Nicki Minaj doesn't have a 'lack of verbal aptitude' and has never given anybody any reason to think she's half literate.

If you really want to break it down...

https://www.narcity.com/entertainmen...-about-cardi-b

Hey look, I was absolutely ****ing right in guessing that English is her second language. So her trouble with speaking english isn't from an inability to read, it comes from it being a second language.

And guess what? She also speaks fluently in french! So **** out of here with your bigoted bull**** calling her half literate for speaking broken English when she's completely literate in 3 different languages.

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MicShazam

All I'm interested in is if there's any direct way in which Addidas' original statement gives any direct reason why he sees the two ladies as being half-literate. Seems clear as day to me that it doesn't, so we're down to making assumptions, which I'd rather not do.

For that matter, when people say over the top stuff online, you'd tend to think they're not being entirely serious, right? Isn't it to take Addidas' original statement in bad faith to assume that he really means it dead seriously when he calls them half-literate. In most contexts that have to do with ranting on the internet, I'd assume that a level headed, serious take from the same person would be very different and much milder.

Lucem Ferre

Thing is, with this statement alone, calling Adidass a raging racist is bit of a stretch, but to sit there and pretend like nothing about the statement could come off as bigoted in any way is naive. He's talking down on these people like they are lesser beings. Could be because they are rappers, could be because they are minorities, it could be completely out of class. Could be a hidden bigoted thought that he never realized was there. I don't think Frownland is that out of line, or is just baiting for being rubbed the wrong way about it. Agree with him or not, you have to at least see where we are coming from. I think most level headed people, like you, do see. So there really is no point in arguing. We just disagree and move on.

But these two **** wits, they don't ****ing care. It's not about Adidasss or the possibility of him being a racist. It's about Frownland and their deep rooted hatred for him. They both refuse to acknowledge the validity to our point of view purely out of spite for Frown. You've seen how Kiiii gets on this type of **** too. Kiiii becomes a self righteous vigilante **** when it comes to the mere hint of anything taboo yet he's defending it now purely out of spite of Frown. It's the two people that spend half of their time trashing everything Frown does that are really arguing and are the ones who resorted to name calling.

And if you want me to break this down further, the reason why Frown is hated by his haters is because he challenges people's ideas. He provokes a dissenting point of view. Valid or not, trolling or not, that's all he's doing. And the people who think he's the scourge of the forum for it are always the self righteous ones that are too full of themselves to ever admit that they could be wrong. They are the brick walls that have to resort to making everything personal when given a dissenting point of view. They are so full of themselves that they just can't stand being questioned. Especially when the challenging points have huge weights of validity socking them right in the ego.

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MicShazam

Absolutely all I'm saying is that we're stuck at "could". That's my whole point.

Lucem Ferre

That's the same defense people use for Trump is our point.

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Oriphiel

Damn, Cardi B could really **** someone up with those nails

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