Music Banter

Go Back   Music Banter > The Music Forums > Reggae & Ska
Register Blogging Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Welcome to Music Banter Forum! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with over 70,000 other registered members. After you create your free account, you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to over 1,100,000 posts.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-07-2010, 01:51 PM   #11 (permalink)
Music Addict
 
goodfoot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 408
Default

London skinheads going to the 1970 F.A.cup final,(Chelsea F.C.) the original skin's where not racist, far from it as they embraced the Jamaican reggae/rocksteady music...






goodfoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2010, 03:29 PM   #12 (permalink)
nothing
 
mr dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: everywhere
Posts: 4,307
Default

i'm not saying they started as racists, nor that they were all racists. fact remains that the style got taken over by racists and is seen as a racist style to the majority of people out there today.

you wonder where they all went? hmm... if i kept getting compared to a racist i'd change my style. especially a few decades later, not unlike the way hippies cut their hair and started washing with soap once they learned the hard way that free love wasn't going to feed their babies. yes, there are some diehards that want to adhere to the ideals they had in the 60s and that's their prerogative but at the same time things have moved on since then. just because it meant something once doesn't mean it still means the same thing.

seems to me there's an element of gang mentality at play between both sides of the issue. plus the whole 'but we like raggae and ska so we can't possibly be racist; those are black styles' reeks of political correctness gone awry. just like corporate photos that make sure they have the most photogenic faces of every ethnic group possible to make sure the public sees how tolerant they are.


i think the better question is, why would you want to be a skinhead in 2010?
__________________
i am the universe

Quote:
Originally Posted by bandteacher1 View Post
I type whicked fast,
mr dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2010, 01:29 AM   #13 (permalink)
Music Addict
 
goodfoot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 408
Default

why would you want to be a christian in 2010?
goodfoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2010, 05:44 AM   #14 (permalink)
Mate, Spawn & Die
 
Janszoon's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Posts: 24,038
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by goodfoot View Post
why would you want to be a christian in 2010?
Social pressure? Can't think of any other reason that makes sense.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by P A N View Post
i'm not gonna spend my life on music banter trying to convince people the earth is flat.
A Night in the Life of the Invisible Man

Time & Place

25 Albums You Should Hear Before the Moon Crashes into the Earth and We All Die


last.fm
Janszoon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2010, 05:48 AM   #15 (permalink)
Mate, Spawn & Die
 
Janszoon's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Posts: 24,038
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mr dave View Post
seems to me there's an element of gang mentality at play between both sides of the issue. plus the whole 'but we like raggae and ska so we can't possibly be racist; those are black styles' reeks of political correctness gone awry. just like corporate photos that make sure they have the most photogenic faces of every ethnic group possible to make sure the public sees how tolerant they are.
Yeah, I'm not really sure how listening to a particular type of music makes the case that you're not racist. I've certainly encountered plenty of white bigots in my life who loved hip-hop for example.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by P A N View Post
i'm not gonna spend my life on music banter trying to convince people the earth is flat.
A Night in the Life of the Invisible Man

Time & Place

25 Albums You Should Hear Before the Moon Crashes into the Earth and We All Die


last.fm
Janszoon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2010, 08:04 AM   #16 (permalink)
True to username
 
Unrelenting's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,100
Default

Who cares as long as the genre is still around?
__________________
My lastfm
Unrelenting is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2010, 06:44 PM   #17 (permalink)
air quote
 
Engine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: pollen & mold
Posts: 3,050
Default

To a degree, I agree with everything that everybody has said on this thread.

But still, as music-oriented fashions go, I like this style..


and I don't think it's fair that people can't dress that way just because racists adopted elements of it.
__________________
Like an arrow,
I was only passing through.
Engine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2010, 06:50 PM   #18 (permalink)
Moodswings n' Roundabouts
 
Piss Me Off's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: At the corner of Dude and Catastrophe
Posts: 4,510
Default

As far as the short (not completely skinhead) hair goes and the long-coat and skinny jeans go nothing much has enormously changed, hell i was at the pub with a few looking a bit like them in a non gang-like way a few hours ago...
__________________


Last FM
Rate Yr Music
Muxtape
Piss Me Off is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2010, 07:00 PM   #19 (permalink)
air quote
 
Engine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: pollen & mold
Posts: 3,050
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Piss Me Off View Post
As far as the short (not completely skinhead) hair goes and the long-coat and skinny jeans go nothing much has enormously changed, hell i was at the pub with a few looking a bit like them in a non gang-like way a few hours ago...
Yeah, I can see that, current fashion is not really so different. But roll up the pant legs to reveal boots and add 4 more people that look exactly the same and suddenly you're in a racist gang.
__________________
Like an arrow,
I was only passing through.
Engine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2010, 07:49 PM   #20 (permalink)
ComputerHabenHerzschmerz
 
Neapolitan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Les Barricades Mystérieuses
Posts: 6,539
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger View Post
Bowling
Then real question should be where have all the bowling lanes gone?

__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zhanteimi View Post
Actually, I like you a lot, Nea. That's why I treat you like ****. It's the MB way.

"it counts in our hearts" - ʕººʔ
“I have nothing to offer anybody, except my own confusion.” ― Jack Kerouac.
“If one listens to the wrong kind of music, he will become the wrong kind of person.” – Aristotle.
"If you tried to give Rock and Roll another name, you might call it 'Chuck Berry'." - John Lennon
"I look for ambiguity when I'm writing because life is ambiguous." — Keith Richards ☮ 💖 ♫ ∞ ἰχθύς
Neapolitan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes



© 2003-2019 Advameg, Inc.

SEO by vBSEO 3.5.2 ©2010, Crawlability, Inc.