Are Pear Jam still around? (dance, old music, punk, rock)

antman188 · 11-28-2005, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

No it isnt, we are talking about MUSICAL INFLUENCE, not cultural influence or anything like that, influencing record companys and radio stations to play certain kinds of music isnt musical influence, because they didnt influence the actual music, they just influence the way the music is marketed...To have some kind of musical influence with any real significence, you have to influence actual musicians first.

Agree...most definitely agree

SuperPseudonym · 11-28-2005, 04:25 PM

"To have some kind of musical influence with any real significence, you have to influence actual musicians first"

If you influence the listeners, the bands that you (the record company) never let them hear about will be the ones to fall. Influencing them is enough. The listeners are the ones who make the bands. You can't possibly think that what people hear doesn't affect most musician's styles.

boo boo · 11-28-2005, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperPseudonym

"To have some kind of musical influence with any real significence, you have to influence actual musicians first"

If you influence the listeners, the bands that you (the record company) never let them hear about will be the ones to fall. Influencing them is enough. The listeners are the ones who make the bands. You can't possibly think that what people hear doesn't affect most musician's styles.

It dosent, the musicians make up the styles of their music and sound, not the fans, record companys market certain bands and songs to meet the demands of consumers, that has nothing to do with the music...You think King Crimson would change their sound to be more commercial and popular?...Nope. Bands and Songs do become popular because of the fans, but the fans dont write the songs, and they dont market the songs.

Thing is, the radio and MTV are made only to appeal to big audiances, not little ones, so they market music they appeal to whole sub-cultures, but more ambitious and underground music is ignored completely, simply because mainstream radio MTV dosent want to take risks, they are not gonna play anything that they are not sure will sell records, they just sell whats popular, and market the living hell out of it.

So if you want to hear new music instead of the same crap over and over, i recomend you download music illegaly...Because that will be the only way you are gonna find what you are looking for.

SuperPseudonym · 11-28-2005, 04:38 PM

The fans are the next bands.

and if the bands you look for arent in some measure of popularity, you wouldn't know about them, unless they are local bands.

franscar · 11-28-2005, 04:41 PM

Yeah, Pearl Jam are great. Belong to a very cool period for music that will be looked back on fondly in years to come.

mosesandtherubberducky · 11-28-2005, 04:41 PM

boo boo could you for once not try to start an argument and leave it at that...

agree to disagree?

boo boo · 11-28-2005, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperPseudonym

The fans are the next bands.

and if the bands you look for arent in some measure of popularity, you wouldn't know about them, unless they are local bands.

I know some great bands from the 60s and 70s that no one has ever heard of...You know how i know?...I just do, with no help from the radio or MTV.

boo boo · 11-28-2005, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesandtherubberducky

boo boo could you for once not try to start an argument and leave it at that...

agree to disagree?

Agreed.

mosesandtherubberducky · 11-28-2005, 04:43 PM

anyways...pearl jam...i like them...(thats really all i can say right now...)

franscar · 11-28-2005, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

I know some great bands from the 60s and 70s that no one has ever heard of...You know how i know?...I just do, with no help from the radio or MTV.

I know how you've done that. You've read books, haven't you? Admit it.

11-28-2005, 04:25 PM	#32 (permalink)
SuperPseudonym Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 24	"To have some kind of musical influence with any real significence, you have to influence actual musicians first" If you influence the listeners, the bands that you (the record company) never let them hear about will be the ones to fall. Influencing them is enough. The listeners are the ones who make the bands. You can't possibly think that what people hear doesn't affect most musician's styles. __________________ There is a beast in man that needs to be excercised, not excorcised. -LaVey

11-28-2005, 04:38 PM	#34 (permalink)
SuperPseudonym Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 24	The fans are the next bands. and if the bands you look for arent in some measure of popularity, you wouldn't know about them, unless they are local bands. __________________ There is a beast in man that needs to be excercised, not excorcised. -LaVey

11-28-2005, 04:41 PM	#35 (permalink)
franscar Honky Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Birmingham Posts: 665	Yeah, Pearl Jam are great. Belong to a very cool period for music that will be looked back on fondly in years to come. __________________ Franscar is metal. You are not.

11-28-2005, 04:41 PM	#36 (permalink)
mosesandtherubberducky butt say x Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: so i read the question as "Where YOU live" which was kinda funny instead of "Where you live" Posts: 1,649	boo boo could you for once not try to start an argument and leave it at that... agree to disagree? __________________ Can I have a youtube video for a sig? There's a thing that says "Wrap [YOUTUBE] tags around selected text"

11-28-2005, 04:43 PM	#39 (permalink)
mosesandtherubberducky butt say x Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: so i read the question as "Where YOU live" which was kinda funny instead of "Where you live" Posts: 1,649	anyways...pearl jam...i like them...(thats really all i can say right now...) __________________ Can I have a youtube video for a sig? There's a thing that says "Wrap [YOUTUBE] tags around selected text"