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Old 05-25-2006, 07:03 PM   #141 (permalink)
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You seem to be trying to argue a subjective point with logic and it`s not working.

You seem trying to get the point across that solos are a part of songs and that some songs are written primarily with one instrument in mind.... Well thats fine. I accept that they`re written in the context of the song.

But that doesn`t mean that I have to like them , just in the same way that i`d wouldn`t like just any song with no solos in them.You`re basically trying to paint it in black & white.By all means write a technical solo passage in a song.What i`m trying to say is i`ll judge it by the song , not the solo.If it fits the song then great.But if I think the song is rubbish then I won`t listen to it.Regardless of how great the solo is.
I agree. Solo's do not make or break a song they simply enhance them just like a good riff would. But that's the thing solo's do not make or break a song and, before you seemed to have implied that solos=bad and are just musicians showing off having big heads that I don't agree with. You don't have to like it, just see it as style that does have talent in it.
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Old 05-25-2006, 07:26 PM   #142 (permalink)
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Old 05-25-2006, 07:28 PM   #143 (permalink)
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I didn`t say solos = bad , and if I did i meant in the context of a live show with one instrument showing off on it`s own for 10/20 minutes.

I said meaningless showing off. You want an example of that i`ll give you one. We`ve already mentioned Oasis once ,Noel Gallagher once said of Be Here Now that he hated the album because he tried to hard on it.He tried to fill every space between the lyrics with extra guitars when it wasn`t needed just for the sake of having them there , to the point where it ruined the songs.His own words. Thats the sort of thing i`m talking about.
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Old 05-25-2006, 07:33 PM   #144 (permalink)
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Fair enough to an extent I agree but, bass isn't worthless or pointless and if you still think that I lack a tremendous amount of respect for you.
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I said bass players not bass
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Old 05-25-2006, 07:42 PM   #146 (permalink)
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Well that's a shame because bassists who write well make something really wonderful. Just wondering but I assume when you listen to music you never really listen to individual parts just the music as a whole, right?
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Well it depends , mostly yes but on some occasions individual parts grab me.
For example The Fall are probably one of the most amatuerish bands i`ve ever heard but Mark E Smiths songwriting , attitude & delivery of the songs make up for that.If it wasn`t for him I probably wouldn`t like them anywhere near as much as I do.
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Old 05-25-2006, 08:02 PM   #148 (permalink)
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Nothing wrong with that just personality difference I suppose. I listen to the song as a whole the first couple of times and that's usually what I base on whether I like it or not but to me that's just the surface and from there I pick out every little part find things I like and dislike. What you like depends on how you listen to things so I figured there was a difference.
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I said bass players not bass
How are bass players pointless?
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Old 05-25-2006, 08:55 PM   #150 (permalink)
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hate to interupt the flow, but i would say cliff burton and in a close 2nd would be flea. just imo.
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