Alex Webster from Cannibal Corpse is a phenominal bass player. It's just not all about talent, sometimes its about flair and presance, and thats one thing for me that Claypool lacks IMO I mean, he's talented sure, but his licks don't make the hair stand up on the back of my neck, whereas Cliff, Webster do

Well that explains why there's a "Best Bassist" thread perfectly.

Les Claypool
Cliff Burton
Mike Watt
Flea

Defenitly Geddy Lee for me..that man is amazing

Steve Harris, and Cliff Burton are also up there with the greats.

Oh my. Shavo of SOAD? He didn't even write the material for either Hypnotize or Mezmerize. I don't know about before, but his bass lines aren't that great either way.

i dunno his name but the guy from lightning bolt is amazing.

Oh gee, that explains why 99% of all rock bands have a bassist, dosent it? :rolleyes:

Tony Levin <3<3<3

Most bands don't have good bassits that's why people are mistaken into thinking that bass isnt important but, a good bassist makes a world of difference.

Victor Wooten of Bela Fleck and the Flecktones

Bassists along with the Drummer are the backbone behind a band, if they do their job, their good enough.... Though a virtuoso wouldn't hurt either.

Les Claypool, He's just so damn cool.

I'd say Shavo Odajian, dunno what you guys think but i reckon he's really good, and he's very creative

Started by a bassist.

Urban, stop trying to piss the bassists off.

By the way, i'm a bassist. :mad:

have you taken your vow of celibacy yet? http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...p/badteeth.gif

Urban, the new AV kicks ass

:laughing: Im a bass player and im not celibate http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...p/badteeth.gif

Nikki Sixx If U Dont No Wut Band Hes Frum, Ur Freakin Retarded

Replied to by guitarists. ;)

how many guesses do i get?

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I know who he is, unfortunately... He's certainly not a bassist worth knowing about.

Good enough isn't anything to scream about. Yea most do their job but to me good is being atleast slightly above the average.

To me, doing your job well enough for the style you're playing is good, giving an above average performance is very good.... Blowing boo boos ass away would be f*cking amazng.

Check Victor Wooten for the ladder.

On my scale doing your job is decent. You have to be a little special to get good. By a little I really do mean a little anyone who let's me notice them and gets by head moving I consider good. But I don't think being able to play in key and on beat makes you a good musician.

If I had a bass player that even considered showing off i`d either tell him to shut up & play the song or buy a guitar & do it properly.

Since when can't bass be a solo instrument?... It has been a major soloing instrument in jazz since, well, forever.

For some genres, bass is way more important on guitar, guitar often times is just icing on the cake, what is one of the most important things in a song?... The beat, and you can rarely have a good beat without bass, imagine funk music without bass (i don't even want to), it would freaking suck ass.

Like you said, Shavo Odadjian (assuming that was the Shavo you were talking about)

Or Cliff Burton was also good

There`s a difference between 'showing off' and 'playing well' If he wants to play bass solos let him do it in a f*cking jazz band.

Funk already sucks ass, so it really couldn't be much of a departure :)

Saying a whole genre sucks is rather ignorant.

A little more than "rather".

Urban: Having your role in a band being completely demolished isn't exactly playing well... Solos aren't vital for a bass player, that is very true, but you say it's automatically a bad thing if a bass player chooses to put their ability to good use instead of just playing bitch to the rest of the band and completely wasting their talent, which couldn't be further from the truth.

As for Sid Vicious, i still can't take such a comment very seriously, as far as i'm concerned, he's the worst "bass player" in music history, not just because he couldn't play a half decent line if his life depended on it, but because he has set the role of the bassist back a million years, he has made a freaking joke out of the entire profession, and the fact that he's so popular is proof that some people just prefer silly stage antics over actual talent.... Bass players are not just "the other guy" and no matter what you say their role in the music is quite important.

Now this may be my pop upbringing talking here but as far as i`m concerned the songs are the most important thing.

If i`ve got a bass player who wants to show off all the time rather than making the songs sound good i`ll fire the bastard.

People remember songs not technical ability and wanking over your instrument.

Since when in the hell is knowing how to actually play your f*cking instrument automatically wanking?

So... I guess you think Charles Mingus and James Jamerson are wankers then, thats pretty damn ignorant.

Since you changed the 2nd half of your post & took out the bits about bass solos

EDIT: look you did it again , And I don`t remember calling anyone wankers

It's not showing off when you play the best you can. If you can't put your talent on an album what are you suppose to do with it? Guitar players "show off" all the time but I rarely hear shit about it.

Case in point, you're making it out like any musician with a modest amount of instrumental talent is a wanker... Thats a huge insult to people who actually devote a lot of their time to music and learning how to play, you may prefer some hack who dosen't know what hes doing and just joined the band to make money, but that dosent make him a good bassist now does it?... There are some really f*cking talented bassists out there, but oh wait, they're all wankers, they suck... I'm better than them, i mean, i can't play bass worth the sh*t.... But i can play with emotion, you see, i don't dunno how to play bass so i just make weird noises with it by farting on it, i fart with great emotion, and emotion is the only thing that matters... Sure its purely subjective, but because i fart on my bass with emotion that makes me better than Charles Mingus, all he did was wank, you know, because he played his bass instead of just standing around with it doing nothing like Cliff Williams or any decent bass player... Also i'm in a popular rock band and i wear cool sunglasses, so i must be good.

If i`ve got a bass player who wants to show off all the time rather than making the songs sound good i`ll fire the bastard.

Read carefully , i`ve bolded the part you & boo boo seem to have missed.And I should add that was in response to Boo Boo saying about bass solos which he later edited out.

I happen to agree with both of you.
Urban's point I think, is that the overall package of a song is more important than any individual musician and that persons talent.
My guess is he would dislike a lead guitarist being flash if it didn't contribute to the finished article.

However a piece of flash bass playing in context of the song, works wonders for me.
I'd wank myself silly over a Jamerson bass run any day.

But it's not showing off. Bass driven music is far underrated. It is good for the music, it is good for the songs. And I beg you to enlighten me that great bass playing doesnt improve a song.

Edit: Music is about balance. All the parts need to be good. Mediocore bass lines bore me and for the most part really just don't cut it.

It`s hard to get my point because i`m responding to Boo Boo who keeps editing his posts after i`ve replied to them.

I`ve no problem with flash bass playing AS LONG AS IT WORKS IN THE CONTEXT OF THE SONG.

All I said was if I was in a band with a bass player showing off all the time i`d tell him to sod off & join a jazz band where thats acceptable.

Is that really that difficult to understand?

I don't remember editing out some bit about solos, but i'm not trying to make it seem like you're saying something else, you're basically spewing out some kind of all bass solos = shit philosophy.