The Metalcore Discussion Thread

[teamventure]

Originally Posted by supermarlin

To be honest I do as well, I was referring to the superior 'only real metal is worth knowing about' attitude, which I just HATE.

well don't worry that's not me. i'm not kvlt, and i like many different kinds of music. however, i find metal connoisseurs name to be very unfitting b/c he doesn't remind me of a real metal listener.
either way i probably won't be here for long. people posting that slipknot and disturbed are the best modern metal bands doesn't sound like a promising conversation about metal..

[supermarlin]

Lol, ever thought there's more to music than metal?

[LOLPOCALYPSE]

Originally Posted by teamventure

well don't worry that's not me. i'm not kvlt, and i like many different kinds of music. however, i find metal connoisseurs name to be very unfitting b/c he doesn't remind me of a real metal listener.
either way i probably won't be here for long. people posting that slipknot and disturbed are the best modern metal bands doesn't sound like a promising conversation about metal..

Yep your best decision would be to leave. This thread is about metalcore, which you clearly don't like. Naturally in a metalcore thread bands like Killswitch and AILD will come up. You obviously didn't come to discuss metalcore, you just came rag on it. I know a troll when I see one, but I just can't help but feed them.

Metalcore is a respectable genre, and if you don't like it, there are plenty of other genres out there. As someone so quick to criticize the name metal connoisseur, you certainly have a narrow minded view yourself. As soon as you used the term "real metal" I knew what kind of person I was dealing with.

I also apologize for ToG and their "radio" sound, whatever that may be. The local radio stations where I live certainly wouldn't play them. Liquid Metal on XM radio might be the only place to find them. That being said, I'm assuming you made the connection radio = too mainstream = must be generic = no way dood, I like trve metal \m/ >_< \m/. A platinum album must be like poison to you. Don't get me wrong, I like a lot of..."real metal"...in addition to other subgenres. But at least I am aware that other types of metal exist. For instance, I don't like drone metal at all and I wouldn't listen to it, but I wouldn't try to dis it (or be foolish enough to do so on a forum specifically discussing drone metal)
I'm curious to hear your argument on why a band like AILD is generic and isn't metal. Is it because they have some degree of success? Is it because their production values are relatively high? Is it because you saw the title of the thread as being metalcore and it flipped a switch in your head that said "I'm not allowed to like this. Too many people like this."? Or is it because they play at venues that are larger than my attic?

I think the reason that Metal Connoisseur's name irked you so much is that you automatically assumed that he judged metalcore as being the best form of music. You think that someone who likes metalcore knows nothing about metal, but fail to see the possibility that he may like MORE THAN ONE KIND OF METAL (and he does, if you keep up with this forum at all).

So as I said before, this thread has no place for you. Why did you even comment at all?

[supermarlin]

Lolpocalypse, you are in a word, a legend.

[Metal Connoisseur]

Originally Posted by teamventure

it doesn't appear to be at all fitting that your name on here is metal connoisseur. a true metal connoisseur would find bands like aild, and kse, pretty weak, wattered down, and well, not metal.. also the first time i heard times of grace i thought the radio was playing. that album sounds like generic radio rock. lame. lame. lame.
srsly, if your name is metal connoisseur, then who are your favorite 5 or 10 metal bands??

I'll play along and give you my favorites in no particular order and you can feel free to rag on them and judge them as subjectively as you wish because I seriously value your off topic posts in a metalcore forum!

Opeth
Pantera
Lamb of God
Katatonia
Between the Buried and Me
Down
Mastodon
Kyuss
In Flames
Insomnium
Dark Tranquility...just to name a few. Now please let us return to metalcore.

For anyone who is open-minded enough to poison themselves with "radio sounding" Times of Grace, check out the track Hope Remains. Really solid melodies there.

[teamventure]

Originally Posted by LOLPOCALYPSE

Yep your best decision would be to leave. This thread is about metalcore, which you clearly don't like. Naturally in a metalcore thread bands like Killswitch and AILD will come up. You obviously didn't come to discuss metalcore, you just came rag on it. I know a troll when I see one, but I just can't help but feed them.

Metalcore is a respectable genre, and if you don't like it, there are plenty of other genres out there. As someone so quick to criticize the name metal connoisseur, you certainly have a narrow minded view yourself. As soon as you used the term "real metal" I knew what kind of person I was dealing with.

I also apologize for ToG and their "radio" sound, whatever that may be. The local radio stations where I live certainly wouldn't play them. Liquid Metal on XM radio might be the only place to find them. That being said, I'm assuming you made the connection radio = too mainstream = must be generic = no way dood, I like trve metal \m/ >_< \m/. A platinum album must be like poison to you. Don't get me wrong, I like a lot of..."real metal"...in addition to other subgenres. But at least I am aware that other types of metal exist. For instance, I don't like drone metal at all and I wouldn't listen to it, but I wouldn't try to dis it (or be foolish enough to do so on a forum specifically discussing drone metal)
I'm curious to hear your argument on why a band like AILD is generic and isn't metal. Is it because they have some degree of success? Is it because their production values are relatively high? Is it because you saw the title of the thread as being metalcore and it flipped a switch in your head that said "I'm not allowed to like this. Too many people like this."? Or is it because they play at venues that are larger than my attic?

I think the reason that Metal Connoisseur's name irked you so much is that you automatically assumed that he judged metalcore as being the best form of music. You think that someone who likes metalcore knows nothing about metal, but fail to see the possibility that he may like MORE THAN ONE KIND OF METAL (and he does, if you keep up with this forum at all).

So as I said before, this thread has no place for you. Why did you even comment at all?

well before i answer your questions do you not know what i mean by radio sound? i'm not talking about music played on the radio but music that has a radio friendly sound.
bands like aild just sound like a weaker, wattered down version of mellodic metal. i don't hate the band or think they're terrible. it's just, why do we need them? that sound has been copied and pasted over and over again. generic.
edit: and for not dis'ing a band you don't like i agree. however there's a difference between not liking something b/c you don't have a taste for it and knowing something isn't good. "not because you're told it isn't good."

[teamventure]

Originally Posted by Metal Connoisseur

I'll play along and give you my favorites in no particular order and you can feel free to rag on them and judge them as subjectively as you wish because I seriously value your off topic posts in a metalcore forum!

Opeth
Pantera
Lamb of God
Katatonia
Between the Buried and Me
Down
Mastodon
Kyuss
In Flames
Insomnium
Dark Tranquility...just to name a few. Now please let us return to metalcore.

For anyone who is open-minded enough to poison themselves with "radio sounding" Times of Grace, check out the track Hope Remains. Really solid melodies there.

i literally don't have a problem with any of those bands. i listen to some of them myself. i just don't see how someone would find metalcore appealing if they already listen to in flames and dark tranquility.

[supermarlin]

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Mate, don't come onto a thread where we're discussing metalcore and start trashing it, if you don't enjoy it that's fine, but don't start taking stabs at people, this is generally a friendly environment where all opinions are respected, don't trash stuff just because it doesn't appeal to you.

[vjs2d308]

Have you guys heard of the band Give to the Winds? Best metalcore band I've heard come out in a while. The screamer is effing amazing!

[supermarlin]

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