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swim 07-12-2006 04:06 PM

Favorite Tool Album
 
I think anyone could pretty much justify any of their albums as being their best. That's one of the best things about Tool.

My favorite is obviously Undertow, it's in my username for anyone who hasn't noticed. I just feel that it's raw musical genius and does stuff that no other album does for me.

This is my first time doing a poll so, when it fucks up that just proves how teh n00bzorz I am.

tdoc210 07-12-2006 04:08 PM

poll doesnt work : / anyways aenima..its the best i like all the songs..and thers no filler

cardboard adolescent 07-12-2006 04:08 PM

Aenima. Most of the time. Sometimes Lateralus. But usually Aenima, because, neglecting the filler, all the songs are magnificent, and the tracks you might look over the first time you listen to it will eventually after listening to it more become your favorites.

cardboard adolescent 07-12-2006 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by the death of capitilism
poll doesnt work : / anyways aenima..its the best i like all the songs..and thers no filler

Useful Idiot, Message to Harry Manback, Intermission, Die Eier Von Satan, Casero Summability, and Ions.... no filler?

Besides that half of the album, I think it's absolutely astounding.

boo boo 07-12-2006 04:12 PM

Lateralus.

Seltzer 07-12-2006 04:40 PM

Aenima for me, closely followed by Lateralus.

sleepy jack 07-12-2006 04:46 PM

Lateralus ftw.

tdoc210 07-12-2006 06:27 PM

Yes so, I have never heard Salival, what is it? I heard is was some box set thing, with some unreleased tracks.

swim 07-12-2006 06:32 PM

Salival Track List

1. Third Eye (Live)
2. Part Of Me (Live)
3. Pushit (Live)
4. Message To Harry Manback 2
5. You Lied (Live)
6. Merkaba
7. No Quarter [Zeppelin Cover]
8. L.A.M.C.

tdoc210 07-12-2006 06:36 PM

^ thank you, now i know where merkaba's SN came from :p

Twistershift 07-12-2006 09:25 PM

I voted Undertow only because Aenima has that filler. Take those away and it's just a touch over an EP, but, oh, what an EP. Undertow is solid music all the way through and "Flood" is in my top 3 favs. (Of course "46&2" and "H" are the other 2) Confused? Me too.

tdoc210 07-12-2006 09:28 PM

^ i actually like the so called filler except for ions... message to harry manback is hilarious

Twistershift 07-12-2006 09:31 PM

Not knocking it at all, don't get me wrong, it's just after so many listens, I now tend to skip those tracks is all.:)

swim 07-12-2006 09:33 PM

I wouldn't call it filler because it has meanings. But it does lose it's novelty after about 5 listens. The technical/correct term is segue. If you take out all the segues Aenima is still a solid album. It comes out to about 66 minutes if you take em out.

tdoc210 07-12-2006 09:36 PM

^ yeah, and that is definatley not an E.P

Spike*Spiegel 07-12-2006 10:00 PM

ooooh i like them all except for 10000 days. total cop out.

Merkaba 07-12-2006 10:03 PM

Aenima has the two best Tool songs on it. But I like the overall Lateralus sound more.

Aenima has that kind of raw sound that they always had, and I love it to bits, but when Lateralus came out, it was so much sharper, and I thought the variation between the songs gave the album more character and body.

I love Salival's Merkaba, it's so eerie and ambient. It also has, imo, a better version of Pushit, and No Quater is my third favourite Tool track ever and it's a damn cover haha.

swim 07-12-2006 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike*Spiegel
ooooh i like them all except for 10000 days. total cop out.

Meh, I like it a lot. I rate em like this, Undertow>Opiate>10,000 Days>Lateralus> AEnima.

and for those who don't already know there's a little secret track thing when you play Viginti trees and Wings for Marie in sequence at the same time as 10,000 days

cardboard adolescent 07-12-2006 10:06 PM

Aenima > Lateralus > Undertow > Opiate > 10,000 Days

Merkaba 07-12-2006 10:11 PM

I rate them in the reverse order that they've come out, with the exception of 10,000 Days, which can go at the bottom. I like it, but it was seriously lacking the knockout punches.

tdoc210 07-12-2006 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by swimintheundertow
Meh, I like it a lot. I rate em like this, Undertow>Opiate>10,000 Days>Lateralus> AEnima.

and for those who don't already know there's a little secret track thing when you play Viginti trees and Wings for Marie in sequence at the same time as 10,000 days

how do i go about doing this w/o 3 cd's

Merkaba 07-12-2006 10:53 PM

You could try using three different media players on your computer.

tdoc210 07-12-2006 10:58 PM

^ahh play the cd..wmp and..... a burnt copy on the other stereo

Merkaba 07-12-2006 11:03 PM

No I mean, for example, open Winamp, WMP and say RealAudio all at the same time, and play each song through a different media player.

Sound Devastation 07-13-2006 04:02 AM

mergers sound crap when done on media players... set up one hi-fi at each end of the room, only then will you get the full effect.

anyway, Lateralus.

Mephistopheles 07-13-2006 05:29 PM

Salival. Their live stuff is awesome. Aenima or Lateralus would be a tie for second.

beat yr own KID 07-13-2006 05:53 PM

*doesn't like tool*



*realizes he's alone on this*

Urban Hat€monger ? 07-13-2006 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beat yr own KID
*doesn't like tool*



*realizes he's alone on this*

No you`re not trust me.

I`ve spent about 10 years wondering what the fuss is about.

boo boo 07-13-2006 07:08 PM

Anyone who dosen't like prog to begin with will certainly not like Tool, even though Tool may not be prog in the most traditional sense of the word, according to Tool themselves, they are heavly influenced by King Crimson, Pink Floyd, Genesis, Rush and early Yes as well as Zeppelin and Sabbath.

They could be considered prog metal, even though they have absolutely nothing in common with any of the other bands under that label.

beat yr own KID 07-13-2006 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo
Anyone who dosen't like prog to begin with will certainly not like Tool, even though Tool may not be prog in the most traditional sense of the word, according to Tool themselves, they are heavly influenced by King Crimson, Pink Floyd, Genesis, Rush and early Yes as well as Zeppelin and Sabbath.

They could be considered prog metal, even though they have absolutely nothing in common with any of the other bands under that label.

I love prog and every band you listed. I just think tool are boring. They have that same riff in every cd. You have to know what i'm talking about. The Tool riff!

Urban Hat€monger ? 07-13-2006 07:21 PM

Pretty much my problem with them.

The album covers are nice , the videos are nice but when it comes down to it to me most of the songs are kinda like the same sludgy drone with bits added to it to make it a little different.

Mephistopheles 07-13-2006 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beat yr own KID
They have that same riff in every cd. You have to know what i'm talking about. The Tool riff!

Yeah I'm kinda starting to realize that.

boo boo 07-13-2006 07:24 PM

Well i think many of their songs are great, though i did confuse some of the songs off their new album as being among their older work.

swim 07-13-2006 07:26 PM

I'm unaware of this "Tool Riff". None of their stuff seems overly similar to me but, I'm just a fanboy.

boo boo 07-13-2006 07:40 PM

I have never heard Tool do anything remotely similar to something that would qualify as a riff, except maybe Parabola, and that's a very distinctive song.

And Urban, before you or someone else call Tool a technical wanky band like Dream Theater, it should be noted that Adam Jones and Justin Chancellor aren't very technical at all, they can play in odd time signatures and make creative use of their instruments, but they don't do fancy neo classical shredding kind of stuff or anything remotely close to that... In fact most of Tool's guitar and bass solos (when there are any, which is rare) are very brief and simple in comparison to the whole structure of the song, when Jones or Chancellor do solo, it almost always fits the song... And the only truly technical member of the group is their drummer, Danny Carey.

Tool's music is more about the intensity and build up than anything else, they do use complex structures, but so do Radiohead, and they are by no means virtuosos.... In short, complexity dosen't always equal amazing technical skill.

Merkaba 07-13-2006 08:20 PM

:laughing:

Yes I completely understand how the songs Third Eye, Lateralis, Schism, Reflection, Flood, Opiate, 10,000 Days, Disposition and Jerk Off are all the same song with a few bits and pieces on the side.

God I've heard some dumb shit before but that takes the cake.

It would be easier to say "they're just not my thing" than to make up some uneducated bulshit to support ones bias.

Actually when I think about it, the same reasoning could be used for almost any band ever.

beat yr own KID 07-13-2006 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merkaba
:laughing:

Yes I completely understand how the songs Third Eye, Lateralis, Schism, Reflection, Flood, Opiate, 10,000 Days, Disposition and Jerk Off are all the same song with a few bits and pieces on the side.

God I've heard some dumb shit before but that takes the cake.

It would be easier to say "they're just not my thing" than to make up some uneducated bulshit to support ones bias.

Who is that directed at?

Merkaba 07-13-2006 08:29 PM

Urban Hatemonger. I just think it's unfair to critisize the band on that reasoning when every band has their own underlying sound with a few extra bits added. Thats what makes a band.

To me, all that said was, "I dislike this band because they have their own sound"

He could of just said they're not his thing, and left it at that honest point.

boo boo 07-13-2006 09:03 PM

His reasoning for disliking Tool is similar to his statements about Pearl Jam, U2 and The Red Hot Chili Peppers.

He seems to mostly prefer more pop/rock n roll oriented bands in the mold of David Bowie, The Kinks and The Rolling Stones... But that's only my observation, the guy might be a Napalm Death fan for all i know.

And Merkaba, not all bands fit that discription, The Beatles tend to change it up song from song.

Merkaba 07-13-2006 09:14 PM

Yeah I'd actually meant to put 'almost all', which I did in my original post but somehow not my second, because Fantomas and Mr Bungle are all over the place. And yeah, the Beatles...


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