William_the_Bloody

Wrong again Batsy your listening too much C.O.C. lol. The White Stripes & Jack Black have had more than one hit though Seven Nation Army was there biggest.

You have never heard this song? It was huge, you couldn't get away from it



Nickleback rose through the ranks before free downloading too off. Record companies don't invest in rock anymore because it's album orientated. Rock fans traditionally would go out and purchase an album for the complete musical experience, pop however has always been more geared to landing that hit single so it's the perfect genre fit for iTunes.

The Batlord

I was in high school when Nickelback came up, and when the White Stripes had "Seven Nation Army". I clearly remember what was on the radio back then, and it was butt rock, the dying embers of nu metal, and a few alt metal bands trying to distance themselves from nu metal. And then the butt rock and alt metal bands started to sound pretty much the same. Any indie bands were few, far between, and pretty much one-hit wonders.

As long as it's existed, the recording industry has been perfecting their formula for making music as bland and palatable for the lowest common denominator as possible, and around the eighties/nineties, they finally managed to do it to rock. The butt rock/alt metal we have on the radio today is merely the final result of that.

__________________

Horsie

perhaps the "rock" cultural movement as it was back then is dead.

But then again, all cultural movements die eventually, no?

The Batlord

I like you. You agree with the things I say. That makes you good.

__________________

Black Francis

Idk which exact period you guys are talking but i see someone mentioned Nickel back and that period where bands like Nickelback and Creed, Puddle of mud were really popular was awful..

I don't know if it was after or before that period but bands like Blink 182, Simple plan, New found glory, Sun 41 suddenly also became popular and that was equally as horrible.

After suffering through all those bands i kinda gave up on mainstream music and thought rock was dead but then a few bands started to breakthrough like The Strokes, Interpol, Artic monkeys, the von bondies and they gave me hope again Rock is not completely dead. Mainstream wise i mean. Underground, Rock never really died.

__________________
"Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A

CoNtrivedNiHilism

I'm going to be the figurative rotten egg in this bunch when I say...

I can't entirely write off Seether, I can't. Butt rock? Yes, I think that is accurate. But that band has put out better music as of late than a lot of their genre mates have in their entire career. Just putting that out there, and Seether isn't completely rancid like Nickelback so that's another positive haha.

But I can't, and probably won't understand why someone would think Rock is a dead genre. A lot say it's because there's so few good Rock bands anymore, none seem to stick around or get noticed because like Batty said, people palatable, watered down, simplistic music. Statistical fact. I like maybe a bit of that music too, but I know what it is and wouldn't say really much of it is worth a listen or could be defended as good music either.

'Rock' is not dead. But the genre is stagnated. And I guess with Pop and Rap being such dominating or the more, most popular genres right now doesn't help make Rock seem anymore 'alive' or active. Breaking Benjamin put out a new album it and shot to number one like crazy, and they're a Rock band doing that. So. I don't know you guys. Dead? It's not. It just needs something that really no bands around right now can give the genre. My example of a mediocre, once nu-metal band like Breaking Benjamin having a number one album with fairly good sales wasn't meant to say they're injecting the genre with anything it needs, because they're not. But it does show that Rock can still stand above a time when Pop and Rap are so crazy popular.

So anyway. F*ck lot of sense I may or may not have made here, I don't know. I should be asleep right now so take from my post what you may, you all know I'm a good sport.

P.S.

Thought I'd add that mainstream music has always been a very small portion of the music I listen to. Got to look in those obscure places to find the good stuff.

__________________

John Wilkes Booth

if illegal downloading killed rock music... then i would have to say it was probably worth it anyhow

Frownland

It sucks that these days we only have imaginary rock. A real shame.

__________________

Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.

William_the_Bloody

Well all musical genres rise and fall, as for rock's apparent decline I think there are number of reasons. I however was lucky because from kindergarten through to high school, I got to hear everything from the Police, to Van Halen, Fleetwood Mac, Tom Petty, Nirvana, Guns N Roses all being played on the top 40.

I think one of the biggest problems is that record companies don't sign working class bands anymore. it's all middle class twats who make fluffy bull$hit in their mommy's basement. I couldn't tell you what's popular on the billboard top 40 today...


All I know is that this is f)ckin cool



and this is f)ckin geeked



If I were a teenager today I'd be building a f)ckin time machine!

Machine

I'm good, I quite like the stuff coming out now that isn't on the radio.

__________________
boost my ego

listen to me stroke my delay pedal

ever wanted to hear death grips songs... but they're acoustic? me neither.