I've said it before, writing off a whole genre makes you retarded.

Hitman? That's a new one. I've even heard Aliens (which would explain the lyrical gibberish) but never a hitman.

^hoorah, you're back.


You don't seriously believe that? I mean really.

Horrrible horrible attempt at being funny.

Your lies dosen't fall through, everyone has heard of the Cobain/Love/Hitman theory.

Of course not.

Many people can commit suicide by gunshot wound to the head with 3 times the lethal dose of herion in their system and then whipe off the fingerprints afterwards, I mean seriously.

Now you can call me a dumbass (which I think you are for thinking Modest Mouse have talent) and that all and all Nirvana fans made up this theory as a way of defending Cobain's character (especially considering he had a young daugher, and was actually considering to divorce Courtney and take full custody of her) which is personally reasonable to believe, but in addition to that, many people will shrug off any actual evidence that contrasts with the idea of Cobain killing himself (such as the lack of fingerprints on the weapon in question, but then again they never actually bothered to check the damn gun for fingerprints until a month later, and by then Cobains death was already ruled out as suicide) simply because they WANT to believe that he did it, thinking it justifies them to demonize him as a human being just because they are cool and listen to cool music, unlike everyone else who are just posers, lawlz.

The only thing I've ever said about Modest Mouse was "They're Ok/They're listenable/They aren't horrible/I listen to em every once in a while" And I might have even said they're nothing special. But I really don't think Modest Mouse has relevancy in 90% of the threads on Musicbanter. That's just my honest opinion.

Is there really a posible way to know what the drug addicts overdose level is? No, and, there have been a couple studies on it. If they didn't take fingerprints for a month isn't it possible they got accidently wiped off?

The fact of the matter is, the fingerprints were a crucial piece of evidence and the police were too goddamn lazy, if there were any fingerprints on the gun at all (assuming a ghost didn't do it) they could either have belonged to Kurt or they could have been someone elses... Thing is we don't know, and the only thing that could really prove that Kurt killed himself would be his fingerprints on the weapon he allegedly used to get the job done, but it was already quickly established by the authorites and media that it was suicide dispite the complete lack of evidence (aside from the Suicide Letter of course, but then again, the letter is also one of the things that points out to another possibility than suicide, primarly because the second half is in a completely different style of handwritting), this is simply because of really bad police work, there is absolutely nothing that single handedly proves that he killed himself, then of course to be fair there is nothing that single handedly prooves that he didn't, which at least means the it's a worthy topic of debate rather them something where you can just be a complete assh*le about it and shrug off someone as being a idiot for believing in one thing or another, that being said, I don't directly believe that someone had him killed, but I leave it open as a possibility.

indies not a real genre

THANK YOU!

And hell, I like a lot of the "so called" Indie bands... I just refuse to take Indie seriously as a musical term, thats all, and I simply dislike people who do.

If by real you mean not having strict rules for what makes a band indie sure. I've always looked at is other. A lot times it's just varients on other genres such as grunge emo folk post-punk or whatever. But, a lot of times it's just well this doesn't really go with anything else and there really aren't enough bands that sound like this so you're just indie.

Edit: As much of a joke genre as pop? Sure. Seeing how it's pretty the same thing just opposite. If you hear a song can't you tell if it's a pop song or not? I can. So to me indie works the same way. There's nothing strict but it is a definite thing.