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white_powered_zombie 01-12-2008 09:23 PM

The album Bleach, I believe is the closest Nirvana got to being Grunge.

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haha I agree Crowquill :D

Rainard Jalen 01-13-2008 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Wayfarer (Post 430486)
not studio-polished alternative metal from the early '90s (though I do like PJ).

How do you mean? Early Pearl Jam were hardly polished and had even less to do with metal. They were just a kinda not-that-bad alt rock act. Which I tend to feel is a statement that holds true for the vast majority of the early 90s "Seattle sound" acts I've listened to.

Urban Hat€monger ? 01-13-2008 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen (Post 430628)
How do you mean? Early Pearl Jam were hardly polished and had even less to do with metal. They were just a kinda not-that-bad alt rock act. Which I tend to feel is a statement that holds true for the vast majority of the early 90s "Seattle sound" acts I've listened to.

:laughing:

I love it how if you dress a band up in lumberjack gear and make a couple of them wear silly hats it totally throws people off from the fact you don't sound anything different to the stadium rock bands of the 80s like Simple Minds or U2.

Rainard Jalen 01-13-2008 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Wayfarer (Post 430630)
Guess it all depends what you're comparing them to. In contrast with early albums by bands like Green River, Mudhoney and Nirvana, even "Ten" sounds quite polished.

You talking Bleach and the out-takes recordings? 'Cos Nevermind and In Utero were pretty slick, really.

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
I love it how if you dress a band up in lumberjack gear and make a couple of them wear silly hats it totally throws people off from the fact you don't sound anything different to the stadium rock bands of the 80s like Simple Minds or U2.

haha, I know, man. Hell knows how some of these pretenders could take themselves seriously, masquerading around as the engineers of some sort of sonic revolution.

TheCaster 01-13-2008 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 430569)
Um, punk was anything but slowed down and Nirvana is more influenced and borrowed from 80s alternative rock acts than The Byrds, Sabbath or any 'classic rock'. I don't even really understand what you're saying.

no, ok classic rock- killed by grundge and punk....

nirvana is caught in the middle between classic rock and grundge

so yeah im bassically saying nirvana borrowed 80s or the 'classic rock' only added thier own grundge twist to it

am i still killing the explanation?

Clarification of last statement:
like when 'classic' or old rock slowed down
and broke into punk and grundge(they took over basically, the old rock was what was slowed down)
nirvana is kinda in the middle of classic and grundge so in some songs theyre more of the old stuff, some are inbetween, and others and grundge

sleepy jack 01-13-2008 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCaster (Post 430860)
no, ok classic rock- killed by grundge and punk....

nirvana is caught in the middle between classic rock and grundge

so yeah im bassically saying nirvana borrowed 80s or the 'classic rock' only added thier own grundge twist to it

am i still killing the explanation?

Um...Yeah, especially seeing as punk didn't really boom until the late 70s and there was ALOT more going on in the 70s than just classic rock/punk there was also alot going on between the late 70s and the 90s..

TheCaster 01-13-2008 07:46 PM

ok but did the nirvana point get through? . yes there was alot of other stuff going on but the two main ones were punk and grundge. It took punk like 5 years from thier original boom to take over the music tastes at the time...

sleepy jack 01-13-2008 07:48 PM

The main ones weren't punk and grunge, you completely skip the 80s which was full of hair metal, new wave, hardcore and all sorts of things. Disco was more of a commercial success than punk, so was new wave and hair metal

TheCaster 01-13-2008 07:54 PM

.....damnit your right.... *hangs head in shame*

well classic rock still exsisted in the 80s(van halen, Ac/DC)
i did completely forget about hair metal
i dont really know much about new wave or hardcore...
but the grundge and punk movements played large parts in taking over music tastes in the 80-90s and the original point was that nirvana is caught inbetween grundge and classic..

Lizzie 01-13-2008 08:07 PM

id say Nirvana was 100% grunge


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