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Opium 10-08-2004 06:57 PM

Why can't you put Soundgarden and Nirvana in the same subgenre? Why can't you put anyone in Nirvana's subgenre? Perhaps if you could define these genres a little more, you can put them back where they belong, and let punk rock be punk rock.

Oh, and "hair bands" is the name of a fad, not a genre.

covle 10-10-2004 01:56 AM

does it really matter what genre people put them into? if its good music, its good music. the end.

independent_loser_kid 10-10-2004 07:47 AM

Wow
 
^ You have a really good point, but I think it's good to see what other peoples opinions are. But I agree with you. :clap:

Lets Gets ReTaRdEd 10-10-2004 08:01 AM

Kurt Cobain is my hero!!!!I learned to play the guitar because of him!!!!!:)

Junior Saint 10-10-2004 01:02 PM

Kurt Cobain is the God of Grundge, but I think that Dave Grohl is far more talented than he was. I mean, he's was drummer with nirvana, drummer in QOTSA, and lead guitarist/singer in Foo Fighters. PLUS he helps out Tenacious D too. What a great musician...


RIP Kurt...

bitethebullet 10-10-2004 04:21 PM

rest in peace Kurt Cobain
who really cares what genre they were THEY KICKED ASS!!!!!!!
kurt was one of my major influences to pick up a guitar.

long live NIRVANA

franscar 10-10-2004 05:06 PM

Yeah, Nirvana were pretty good. Not as good as the legends tend to make out, but they were good nonetheless.

WeIRd lIl MosHeR FrEak 10-11-2004 10:28 AM

OMG, Kurt Cobain is like... wow! I agree with you 'independant loser kid' but at the end of the day good music is good music no matter what genre it falls in. But there is one thing i don't get about him, nirvana were trying to make a statement yes? and to stand out from the crowd, and then when people liked them and they became famous, kurt killed himself?! I realy don't get this, someone explain please? is it anyone else or just me being stupid?

jibber 10-11-2004 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by WeIRd lIl MosHeR FrEak
OMG, Kurt Cobain is like... wow! I agree with you 'independant loser kid' but at the end of the day good music is good music no matter what genre it falls in. But there is one thing i don't get about him, nirvana were trying to make a statement yes? and to stand out from the crowd, and then when people liked them and they became famous, kurt killed himself?! I realy don't get this, someone explain please? is it anyone else or just me being stupid?

it's not such a simplistic situation as it's made out to be in that post. He had other parts of his life not connected to the band or with their rising popularity. plus everyone reacts to things differently, you can't possibly try to determine any sort of cause when dealing with suicide (for the sake of this discussion, the possibilty of murder is ruled out). there's way too many factors to be able to give an explanation.

Y do i even try 10-11-2004 09:39 PM

Bill board
 
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Originally Posted by Han
Kurt we salute u! god bless u

If any of yall live in Atlanta you have probally seen the bill board that has that picture that Rolling Stone took it has nose up and its saus "Cobain Lives" and at the bottem rite corner it says 99x (the best radio stacion ever)

Opium 10-12-2004 04:57 PM

Weird Mosher Freak, the most popular explanation for his suicide was a medication he'd been put on as a child, Ritalin, which is commonly used to treat ADHD and the sort. As the story goes, it caused numerous health problems for him, primarily these nasty stomach pains. They eventually got to a point where the poor guy couldn't handle them.

fuzzyducky 10-13-2004 10:08 PM

eeewwwwww.......
 
Hair metal.Yuck.

ZorbaTheFreak 10-14-2004 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Junior Saint
Kurt Cobain is the God of Grundge, but I think that Dave Grohl is far more talented than he was. I mean, he's was drummer with nirvana, drummer in QOTSA, and lead guitarist/singer in Foo Fighters. PLUS he helps out Tenacious D too. What a great musician...

And let us not forget the most important contribution of Dave Grohl to music, his fantastic PROBOT project! :bowdown:

ConnradCKY32 10-22-2004 03:15 PM

Nirvana was one of the greatest bands ever. There not exactly punk. I dont know anyone who dislikes there music!!
:band:

Social_14_Enemy 10-22-2004 09:47 PM

Man, just about everybody I know cant stand Kurt Cobain....they say, 'Cobain was a s***** guitarist and Nirvana sucked ass,' then I just tell 'em all to shut the **** up...
they dont know what theyre talking about... Nirvana is one of the greatest bands ever!!! :hphones:

IamYoMomA 10-23-2004 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by WeIRd lIl MosHeR FrEak
OMG, Kurt Cobain is like... wow! I agree with you 'independant loser kid' but at the end of the day good music is good music no matter what genre it falls in. But there is one thing i don't get about him, nirvana were trying to make a statement yes? and to stand out from the crowd, and then when people liked them and they became famous, kurt killed himself?! I realy don't get this, someone explain please? is it anyone else or just me being stupid?

yeah. I know, but I think he was murdered. A lot of people I know say he was, but then a lot say he killed himself. So i really don't know, i wasn't there.lol. RIP :bowdown: Kurt.

Social_14_Enemy 10-23-2004 04:56 PM

DUDE!! he didnt f****** kill himself!! those bastards were just making stupid **** up...the have evidence that courtny love hiered somebody to kill poor ol' Kurt! Im sick of explaining this :banghead:

franscar 10-24-2004 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Social_14_Enemy
DUDE!! he didnt f****** kill himself!! those bastards were just making stupid **** up...the have evidence that courtny love hiered somebody to kill poor ol' Kurt! Im sick of explaining this :banghead:

But he shot himself. He did. Really. Whether you like it or not.

soundgardenrox 10-24-2004 09:34 AM

Nirvana is the greatest band of the past 2 decades no questions asked. There just that good. Only if Kurt were here i would think emo/pop-punk wouldn't be here.

R.I.P. Kurt

Thrice 10-24-2004 10:11 AM

huh? emo and pop-punk were aound even before nirvana

emokid 10-24-2004 12:13 PM

emo's got about five years on cobain (rites of spring, embrace). pop-punk has even more.

Social_14_Enemy 10-26-2004 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by franscar
But he shot himself. He did. Really. Whether you like it or not.

LIES! THEY HAVE EVIDENCE THAT WHATS HER NAME HIRED SOMEBODY TO KILL HIM!!

franscar 10-26-2004 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Social_14_Enemy
LIES! THEY HAVE EVIDENCE THAT WHATS HER NAME HIRED SOMEBODY TO KILL HIM!!

:D Course they do. Quick tip: don't believe everything the internet tells you.

Thrice 10-26-2004 06:56 PM

What Really Happened:

Kurt Cobain Was Eaten By An Anaconda.

franscar 10-26-2004 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Thrice
What Really Happened:

Kurt Cobain Was Eaten By An Anaconda.

You should write a book about that dude, then release a DVD of it. Go on, rape the guy's legacy, everyone else has.

Social_14_Enemy 10-27-2004 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by franscar
:D Course they do. Quick tip: don't believe everything the internet tells you.

I DIDNT GET THAT FROM THE INTERNET!!!!

franscar 10-27-2004 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Social_14_Enemy
I DIDNT GET THAT FROM THE INTERNET!!!!

Well ok, humour me then. Why, if there is "evidence" that Courtney Love hired someone to kill the father of her child, has she never been bought to trial for the crime?

It's time to face facts, Kurt Cobain shot himself, leaving behind a daughter to grow up without a father. Nice one Kurt.

Thrice 10-27-2004 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by franscar
You should write a book about that dude, then release a DVD of it. Go on, rape the guy's legacy, everyone else has.



Legacy....

I like nirvana, but everyone talks about Kurt as if he were an effing god

franscar 10-27-2004 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Thrice
Legacy....

I like nirvana, but everyone talks about Kurt as if he were an effing god

Indeed they do. I wonder how many t-shirts he and Che Guevara have sold combined.

Thrice 10-27-2004 10:17 AM

I bet half of the t-shirt owners coudn't name four songs.

Junior Saint 10-27-2004 10:28 AM

Kurt Cobain is the messiah of grunge music. Dave Grohl is his disciple - taking it deep within our souls.

franscar 10-27-2004 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Junior Saint
Kurt Cobain is the messiah of grunge music. Dave Grohl is his disciple - taking it deep within our souls.

But "grunge" was around before Kurt Cobain had even picked up a guitar dude.

Social_14_Enemy 10-27-2004 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by franscar
Well ok, humour me then. Why, if there is "evidence" that Courtney Love hired someone to kill the father of her child, has she never been bought to trial for the crime?

It's time to face facts, Kurt Cobain shot himself, leaving behind a daughter to grow up without a father. Nice one Kurt.

.....I DONT WANNA CUZ ITS NOT TRUE!!! HE WAS MURDERED

IamYoMomA 10-27-2004 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Social_14_Enemy
DUDE!! he didnt f****** kill himself!! those bastards were just making stupid **** up...the have evidence that courtny love hiered somebody to kill poor ol' Kurt! Im sick of explaining this :banghead:

How do you know? You Were never there............so blah..........lol No one will ever know how the story ever went, But it doesn't matter how he died. All that matters now is that he is dead. He was an AWSOME guy, and he was and still is loved for his talent and the way he could just reach out and make it feel like the song he wrote was just 4 you. The world lost a great gift when we lost Kurt, even if we don't know how he was killed. So lets stop arguing about this. :wavey:
peace out.

Social_14_Enemy 10-27-2004 03:35 PM

EXACTLY!!!... music is music...whats done is done...theres nothing we can do about it now...kurt was awesome...but he is no more :hphones:

IamYoMomA 10-27-2004 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Social_14_Enemy
EXACTLY!!!... music is music...whats done is done...theres nothing we can do about it now...kurt was awesome...but he is no more :hphones:

Right on

Junior Saint 10-28-2004 04:51 AM

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But "grunge" was around before Kurt Cobain had even picked up a guitar dude.
As I said, Cobain was the Messiah of Grunge. In otherwords, the saviour who has pushed it forward and made it popular. Dave Grohl is the disciple because he has taken what Kurt did into new realms.

soundgardenrox 10-28-2004 06:47 PM

Green River and Soundgarden r the "forefathers" of grunge no doubt about it. As junior saint said kurt cobain pushed grunge forward and made it popular. But i wouldn't say he was the saviour because was never dying in nirvana's infancy.

soundgardenrox 10-28-2004 06:47 PM

grunge was never dying* sorry typed to fast

sleepy jack 01-03-2005 07:38 PM

Who killed Kurt Cobain?
 
This is always an interesting topic dont know if its been done before but I strongly believe that he killed himself. He had tried to with pills about a month before, and he was genuinly depressed. He aimed his musics at the outcasts in society, and in the end the bullies and the so called "cool" kids started listening to it, and he hated that. Sure, Courtney Love has serious problems, but I wouldn't say she murdered Kurt.


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