Most pretentious band and least pretentious in the world (indie, rock)

boo boo · 04-01-2008, 07:01 AM

That way of thinking is just retarded. If critics base their reviews on lame stereotypes of what all musicians in a certain genre are like then they don't deserve to be taken seriously. Besides, many great artists throughout history were pricks.

I judge music by judging the music, not the people making it.

Rainard Jalen · 04-01-2008, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

That way of thinking is just retarded. If critics base their reviews on lame stereotypes of what all musicians in a certain genre are like then they don't deserve to be taken seriously. Besides, many great artists throughout history were pricks.

I judge music by judging the music, not the people making it.

Fair enough, it is true that pretentious intentions do not necessarily make music (or anything else) artistically bad. It does have quite a strong influence though on the opinion of listeners.

Seltzer · 04-02-2008, 02:54 AM

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Somebody above used a dictionary entry for the word "pretense" - that's very misleading. Just because "pretentious" is a derivative of "pretense" doesn't mean you can gauge its most regular meaning from the latter.

The most frequent and commonly intended meaning of "pretentious" is the meaning of assuming an air of dignity and self-importance. This is also incidentally what is generally meant in the music press (and all art press) when some artist is deemed pretentious.

In that case, you can only really say that an artist is pretentious if they make that clear through what they say or how they behave.

I thought it was a fairly decent definition. 'Pretentious' is hard to define because people misuse it so much now, but some of those sub-definitions are correct. But I did clarify it in a music context anyway.

Rainard Jalen · 04-02-2008, 04:08 AM

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I thought it was a fairly decent definition. 'Pretentious' is hard to define because people misuse it so much now, but some of those sub-definitions are correct. But I did clarify it in a music context anyway.

Sorry, my bad.

I agree with what you were saying, too - you can't know for sure of any musician's pretentiousness from the music alone, but only from what they might say in interviews etc.

boo boo · 04-02-2008, 05:45 AM

Well in that case.

Oasis.

Rainard Jalen · 04-02-2008, 07:29 AM

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Well in that case.

Oasis.

Agreed. Noel's a total twonk who feels he fronts the greatest and most important rock band on earth. It's actually at the present moment one of the blandest, most derivative, uninspired bands in the universe.

sleepy jack · 04-02-2008, 03:31 PM

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Agreed. Noel's a total twonk who feels he fronts the greatest and most important rock band on earth. It's actually at the present moment one of the blandest, most derivative, uninspired bands in the universe.

Don't you mean Liam?