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Sneer 11-03-2004 09:09 AM

British Rock Vs Americam Rock
 
whats your preference and why?

franscar 11-03-2004 09:29 AM

British, simply because I'm British probably. I see the bands more often and I can relate to them a lot easier. Plus we've put out some of the finest bands ever to grace rock music.

Sneer 11-03-2004 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by franscar
British, simply because I'm British probably. I see the bands more often and I can relate to them a lot easier. Plus we've put out some of the finest bands ever to grace rock music.

never a truer word spoken my freind

gregb 11-03-2004 09:38 AM

agreed, british rock isn't amazing, but american rock definately sucks the big one

Fenixpunk 11-03-2004 09:38 AM

this has nothing to do with this topic, but how can i get my avatar to display?
And i think rock music in general has slowely went to sleep with the exceptions of a few bands still renovating the music.

Sneer 11-03-2004 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Fenixpunk
this has nothing to do with this topic, but how can i get my avatar to display?
And i think rock music in general has slowely went to sleep with the exceptions of a few bands still renovating the music.

avator? sorry man dunno wat that is. yup definetly rock music has slowly diminshed slightly. dont see ne led zep or rolling stones around these days.

THE DARKNESS SUCK BTW

Fenixpunk 11-03-2004 09:47 AM

What do you think about these new "garage" bands that have gotten popular recently? Jet, White Stripes, The Strokes, etc.
Sounds to me they are stealing a few pages from old Rolling Stones.

Sneer 11-03-2004 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Fenixpunk
What do you think about these new "garage" bands that have gotten popular recently? Jet, White Stripes, The Strokes, etc.
Sounds to me they are stealing a few pages from old Rolling Stones.

at least they're bringing back a bit of the old rock spirit i think, bands like Blink 182 and the Darkness are just imitating bands such as led zep and the clash, but the strokes for example bring their own style to the genre.

Junior Saint 11-03-2004 12:54 PM

I have no preference - both are equal to me.

Pit-Bull84 11-03-2004 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LedZepStu
whats your preference and why?

Basing a genre on it's nationality is pretty asenine.

"Who's better, a BLACK rock star or a wHITE rock star?"

Just as asenine as the preceeding statement.

franscar 11-03-2004 04:25 PM

But he wasn't doing it, he was merely asking for the opinions of people on which country has produced the finer bands, which I thought was pretty harmless really.

Pit-Bull84 11-03-2004 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by franscar
But he wasn't doing it, he was merely asking for the opinions of people on which country has produced the finer bands, which I thought was pretty harmless really.

And I wasn't accusing him of it, I merely stated that judging a band in such a manner is rediculous.

"Whic country has produced the most number of talented bands?" would have been a better way to ask, don't you agree?

raven 11-03-2004 07:49 PM

british rock seems to offer some newer ideas which usally pick up in the US.... but then again i live in america and so maybe british rock is equally influenced by american style

any torries here that can verify?

franscar 11-03-2004 07:49 PM

It's pretty asinine to be debating the wording of a question if you obviously understood it anyway, don't you think?

WeIRd lIl MosHeR FrEak 11-04-2004 09:36 AM

well with american rock i think it always sounds the same but british rock is always changing and redeveloping itself to get new sounds

Han 11-04-2004 01:06 PM

I really don't have a preference but American bands do it a bit more for me, but that is my opnion. though I am british and i'll be very patriotic and say that is my fav. but wot about all the other bands from other countries? surely those two r not the only places that make good rockin music?!

Pit-Bull84 11-04-2004 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by franscar
It's pretty asinine to be debating the wording of a question if you obviously understood it anyway, don't you think?

And yet you did it yourself as well.

riseagainstrocks 11-05-2004 06:38 PM

By number of influential bands than the brits have us beat.

But my favorite is American. Gave birth to the hardcore scene

Sneer 11-10-2004 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Han
but wot about all the other bands from other countries? surely those two r not the only places that make good rockin music?!

Gd point, but to me British and American Rock is the vast Majority of Rock i kno, bar the vines, jet, Rammstein Sum41 and HIM i dont no much world rock.
all the scandinavian Heavy metal yup but i dont listen to that so i wouldnt kno.

And in reply to pit-bull, if u got a problem with this thread dont reply to it.

SteelyDan79 11-10-2004 01:31 PM

what could i say that hasn`t already been mentioned ...there`s no shadow of a doubt..when you think about great Rock Bands the first three or four Bands that`ll come to your mind are Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath..Rolling Stones..and so on..
these 4 bands are household names of rock music..and they are british..get my drift?? :D

Fenixpunk 11-10-2004 01:41 PM

give us americans some credit..after all we do have..um...ok, nevermind.:bonkhead:

Sneer 11-11-2004 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Fenixpunk
give us americans some credit..after all we do have..um...ok, nevermind.:bonkhead:

Yea America gave us grunge which is awesome..and erm, 80's metal....not so awesome.
must say atm the americans r kickin us Brits arses in terms of bands, the strokes, QOTSA, Marilyn Manson, chilli peppers......we have......the libertines, franz ferdinand and muse. yup, the americans lead atm!

rise_above 11-12-2004 09:33 AM

Theres goods and bads of both kinds. turbonegro, the sex pistols, raised fists, and the subhumans are all from europe. but some of the media has made england look like a pop-fanatic country. well so is most of america

Merkaba 04-22-2005 03:24 AM

Anyone in america can make music (most of it shudnt be called music cough greenday cough) and they hav all these major record companies that will sign anyone up ( greenday cough cough). America gets so much more publicity to its billions of musicians and maybe every 5 in one 1000 are actually good. Where as in da UK ya dont get the american "we are better than everyone else" attitude and so bands from the UK have to work for their record label. So really i think UK artists produce better bands just on a lesser scale than America. And america produces a lot less decent bands in comparrison to all the bad ones, but theres so many of them to start with that there are quite a lot of good usa bands coming thru. Its fairly even really, i just think Americas music is heard on a larger scale throughout the world so one would be able to relate to americas music more so than the UK....... And thats me, im spent.

Sneer 04-22-2005 08:53 AM

on the whole british rock does seem to have a heavy element of pop at the moment, america is producing a lot more innovative stuff like britian did in the 90s.

macman 04-22-2005 03:36 PM

dudes.

three words for the future.

The Cunning Reaper.

your right, british heavy metal is almost dead; steve harris isn't likely to do more than two more maiden albums and priest aren't as youthfull as they once were; john bonhams been dead for 30 years, so theres no chance of a zepplin revival; as for Sabbath; touring yes, albums, a big no-no.

The Cunning Reaper. Watch this Space. Our only hope.

pastor of muppets 04-23-2005 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Pit-Bull84
And I wasn't accusing him of it, I merely stated that judging a band in such a manner is rediculous.

"Whic country has produced the most number of talented bands?" would have been a better way to ask, don't you agree?


does it really matter that much????

TeleCat 04-23-2005 03:31 AM

Lets see. The big three IMO are Purple, Zeppelin, and Sabbath. They were the benchmark for what became heavy metal (although the Sabs are the real pioneers as Zep and Purple were influenced by more diverse styles). But how can you discredit bands like Van Halen. EVH revolutionized the way guitar is played like Hendrix (another yank) before him. It's a toss up. But bottom line, it all started with The Beatles.

Sneer 04-23-2005 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TeleCat
Hendrix (another yank)

honoury brit may i add

mr. blonde 04-23-2005 06:12 AM

The best bands came from England yes, but we still have the Eagles, Lynyrd Skynyrd, the Allman Brothers, KISS, Hendrix, Van Halen, RHCP, Aerosmith, I could go on and on. That being said, my top two bands are Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd.

coffeeshop 04-23-2005 06:22 AM

British Rock for me.

British-

Led Zeppelin
Iron Maiden
The Coral
Bloc Party
Radiohead
Oasis
The Clash
Deep Purple
The Music
The Stone Roses
Queen
Pink Floyd
Sex Pistols
The Libertines
Stereophonics
The Who
Rolling Stones
The Beatles
David Bowie
Iggy Pop- I think he is English
Motorhead

America-

Red Hot Chili Peppers
Foo Fighters
Nirvana
Alice in Chains
Jane's Addiction
Killing Joke
Metallica
R.E.M.
Dead Kennedys
The Smashing Pumpkins
Pearl Jam

Sneer 04-23-2005 06:38 AM

iggys a yank. what about CCR or the grateful dead? and some of the new wave of american music? and of course jefferson airplane! agree with you though, britrock for me.

coffeeshop 04-23-2005 10:24 AM

I'm not really in with new American music. I have only been listening to new English bands recently like, The Coral, Bloc Party, Kasabian etc.

I loved the Grunge period of the late 80's and early 90's in Seattle but that was it really appart from stand out bands.

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-23-2005 11:45 AM

I think there`s a kind of swing effect between American rock & British Rock

In the late 80s/Early 90s most of my favourite bands were American Faith No More , Janes Addiction , The Pixies , Soundgarden , Ministry , Nirvana , Dinosaur JR , Smashing Pumpkins.

However around 1993-1999 America seemed to have a kind of grunge hangover & so all that seemed to come out of the US was awful grunge lite bands & Nu Metal there didn`t seem to be anybody doing anything different, while in the UK we had the likes of Suede , Blur , Pulp , Elastica , Radiohead , Mogwai , The Delgados , Primal Scream, Clinic & Oasis.

I think in recent years the UK scene is a little in the doldrums despite all the new bands that seem to be around.I do like a lot of these bands but there`s not really any that stand out like Radiohead or the Pixies did. With bands such as The Shins , The White Stripes , The Walkmen America seems to have bands that want to do something a bit different to the usual stadium rock that seems to plague the American charts.

I`d say as far as ORIGINAL rock music America seems to be on the rise & The UK in decline but they`re around the same level at the moment.

coffeeshop 04-23-2005 11:53 AM

I think british is pretty good atm and American is in decline. All those bands like Sound Garden and The Pixies were awesome but now it is getting very bad imo. I still like QOTSA though.

I'm actually quite enjoying British atm.

The Music
The Coral
The Zutons
Bloc Party
Kasabian

There are a few others as well I have forgotten.

They may not be new Mondays, Roses, Oasis's and Radios but they are keeping it going...

TheBig3 04-23-2005 02:00 PM

Not that nationality matters but I think right now most of the good stuff is on the stateside:

Queens
Stripes
Kings
System
Beck
Volta

I don't know, The Britts to me right now are going back to the dance floor, I've read that dance clubs are just something thats introduced there at an earlier age. So provided thats an accurate statement it makes sense that it would be an influence.

I'd prefer sloppy guitar to robotic synth most days.

TheBig3 04-23-2005 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SteelyDan79
what could i say that hasn`t already been mentioned ...there`s no shadow of a doubt..when you think about great Rock Bands the first three or four Bands that`ll come to your mind are Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath..Rolling Stones..and so on..
these 4 bands are household names of rock music..and they are british..get my drift?? :D

Deep Purple sucks compared to 90% of the other classic rock bands, I'd take them second to any of the following:

Aerosmith, Pink Floyd, Lynard Skynard, Fleetwood Mac, Doors, Cream, Boston...pretty mcuh anyone. You could have picked any other band and I'd have agreed. And if I want to nit pick, thank Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf, and leadbelly for those bands (yankee)

TheBig3 04-23-2005 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Merkaba
Anyone in america can make music (most of it shudnt be called music cough greenday cough) and they hav all these major record companies that will sign anyone up ( greenday cough cough). America gets so much more publicity to its billions of musicians and maybe every 5 in one 1000 are actually good. Where as in da UK ya dont get the american "we are better than everyone else" attitude and so bands from the UK have to work for their record label. So really i think UK artists produce better bands just on a lesser scale than America. And america produces a lot less decent bands in comparrison to all the bad ones, but theres so many of them to start with that there are quite a lot of good usa bands coming thru. Its fairly even really, i just think Americas music is heard on a larger scale throughout the world so one would be able to relate to americas music more so than the UK....... And thats me, im spent.

The UK says every new band is the "saviour of rock and roll" I don't think they have to work harder than anyone here for anything. It stands to reason that a band accepted in one part of England has a better chance to be accepted in all part where as a band in Chicago is not recieved the same in detroit as they are in New York.

And lets be serious for a moment. You honestly think Green Day got a record deal unfairly? You're making it sound like they got picked up for reasons other than musicallity. I don't agree with that at all. I think they earned their slot.

And to you who said it started with the beatles, how about Dylan, Little Richard, Elivs, MoTown, and Johnny Cash.

The Beatles started as a cover band.

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-23-2005 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog
The UK says every new band is the "saviour of rock and roll" I don't think they have to work harder than anyone here for anything. It stands to reason that a band accepted in one part of England has a better chance to be accepted in all part where as a band in Chicago is not recieved the same in detroit as they are in New York.

The whole Future Of Rock n Roll thing started with the Strokes & The White Stripes. Both American bands as it happens

gongadin 04-23-2005 05:40 PM

I like queen, my favourite is bohemian rhapsody, but apart from that I would say that american music is better, less manufactured bull****, but that might change with american idol.


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