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Yngtchie Blacksteen 02-15-2009 12:40 PM

Hmm, the list has a rather familiar feel to it.

1ib. 02-15-2009 04:40 PM

Really good list, would have liked Brian May a little bit more up there :)

FreddeGredde 02-16-2009 01:38 PM

Naturally I haven't heard enough of all guitarists to write down a good/fair list, but at least I have to say that John Petrucci is easily my favourite guitarist. ^^ Not only because he's very fast and play lots of different styles well, but also because his songwriting is really appealing to me. :)

Janszoon 02-16-2009 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 594186)
As a huge FNM fan, Trey Spruance is fucking terrible. Jim Martin, on the other hand, was fantastic.

They're both good. If you think Trey Spruance is not a good guitarist you really need to hear some Secret Chiefs 3

crash_override 02-21-2009 04:39 PM

George Lynch at 214?

Behind Cobain?

Wow, would have done some more listening before diving into a 215 top guitarists thread. Also, I would've included some outside advice. You know, from other people.

Not a bad list if you did it yourself though. Although Hendrix at number 1 is a little hard to swallow, I would say more like 3rd.

Mojo 02-21-2009 04:54 PM

If you feel you could do a better list of 215 guitarists I say go for it.

Terrible Lizard 02-21-2009 05:25 PM

Hank Garland and Mark Tilton need to be on this list.

crash_override 02-21-2009 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk (Post 600722)
If you feel you could do a better list of 215 guitarists I say go for it.

Well the quality of the list is subjective to personal opinion, and someone will always have something nevatige to say.

I was mearly commenting and I did offer kudos for such a tedious effort done by one person.

And honestly, I'm just not up to it.

FaSho 02-21-2009 05:29 PM

Just wondering, but who would you put ahead of Hendrix? I'm notmuch of afan, but I can't think of anyone who would go above him on a list that wasn't made by me.

crash_override 02-21-2009 05:32 PM

1. Jimmy Page
2. David Gilmour
3. Jimi Hendrix
4. Pete Townsend
5. Jeff Beck

Short summary right off the top of my head.

FaSho 02-21-2009 05:36 PM

That's rasonabl, Gilmour would prbably be my numer one, but Page wouldn't be too far behind, I would actuall be interested in seeing a list from you.


On another, more embarassing note, I had to look up Jeff Beck. :shycouch:

crash_override 02-21-2009 05:38 PM

Wow

well you have to discover Beck at some point.

What better place than here? What better time than now? Uh!

I would like to do one.

But it wouldn't be 200, more like 50.

Terrible Lizard 02-21-2009 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 600733)
1. Jimmy Page
2. David Gilmour
3. Jimi Hendrix
4. Pete Townsend
5. Jeff Beck

Short summary right off the top of my head.

:crazy:

crash_override 02-21-2009 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Terrible Lizard (Post 600745)
:crazy:

Please refer to my post earlier, thank you.


Quote:

Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 600730)
Well the quality of the list is subjective to personal opinion, and someone will always have something nevatige to say.

I was mearly commenting and I did offer kudos for such a tedious effort done by one person.

And honestly, I'm just not up to it.


dac 02-21-2009 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 600739)
What better place than here? What better time than now? Uh!

...

Really? lol

crash_override 02-21-2009 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dac (Post 600748)
...

Really? lol

Haha, I was waiting for someone to pick up on that. Congrats.

FaSho 02-21-2009 05:55 PM

ohhh I get it!
niceeeee

crash_override 02-21-2009 06:34 PM

I'm glad we can all follow along. I tend to drop in things like that sometime just to make sure people are actually reading posts. lol.

Mojo 02-21-2009 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FaSho (Post 600737)
On another, more embarassing note, I had to look up Jeff Beck.

Beck-Ola is most definitely what the doctor ordered for you in that case.

Beck-Ola (Cosa Nostra) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

ixtlan22 02-21-2009 07:26 PM

This might be an unpopular opinion... but I thought Pete Townsend is one of the least notable guitar players in Rock history. I like The Who... but for me they were always sort of like how Tool is now, simple guitar parts, intricate drumming. Rhythm Guitar, Lead Drummer. I don't know, I just don't think Pete is all that special... he would at least be lower on my list.

Mojo 02-21-2009 07:28 PM

I dont think thats gonna be as unpopular an opinion as you may think on this board.

Personlly I disagree but I'm almost certain theres a lot of Townshend and general Who indifference here.

Elastic Man 02-22-2009 06:41 AM

I'm sorry but I have to say it... what a boring, conservative list. Fred Frith and Snakefinger behind Yngwie Malmsteen!? You must be insane! And since when was popularity a criteria for greatness?

Mojo 02-22-2009 07:45 AM

...and yet again someone who has not read the thread properly. The criteria for selection is stated in the first post and this is one persons opinion. I dont agree with the accuracy of placings for every single choice on the list but we coud have every member of this forum make a list and all of them would be different. In fact, I wonder how many members would actually be able to compile a list of 215 guitarists that they actually know jack **** about in the first place.

Gah. Rant over.

PS a boring, conservative list would surely have Zakk Wylde, Dimebag Darrell and Satch to name but a few much closer to the top in favour of the likes of Moore and Blackmore for a start.

Elastic Man 02-22-2009 10:00 AM

Umm... I realise that this is just one person's opinion but surely that doesn't mean that I'm not entitled to disagree with it? I read the criteria in the first post and questioned why popularity should even be included. I really don't see what's so wrong with that really. True, if Zakk Wylde etc. were highly placed the list would be even worse but I don't think that that really makes the current list any better. Sorry if I offended anyone by the way, I was just offering my own opinion, which is surely as important as anyone elses even if it differs from what most people think.

khfreek 02-22-2009 10:57 AM

Popularity is an indicator of how likable their playing is.

Mojo 02-22-2009 11:50 AM

No, its not that I was offended. It was admittedly a pretty hotheaded rant but that was a response to a few posts to be fair.

Everyones gonna have a differing opinion about a list like this but I guess I just dont understand how the list is conservative or boring. If anything, I think its very extensive considering its compiled entirely by the one poster.

crash_override 02-22-2009 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Elastic Man (Post 600956)
I'm sorry but I have to say it... what a boring, conservative list. Fred Frith and Snakefinger behind Yngwie Malmsteen!? You must be insane! And since when was popularity a criteria for greatness?

Malmsteen shreds. He deserves to be right up there.

Elastic Man 02-23-2009 12:56 PM

Maybe I overreacted. It's certainly not the worst list I've ever seen but, at the same time, it's far from the best. I just get a little frustrated when someone puts so much time and effort into compiling such a list and I feel like I've learnt nothing from reading it. In fact it just seems like repetition of things I've disagreed with before, which can be tedious. Oh well.
As for Malmsteen... I stand by what I said before. His playing is just embarrassing. Technically gifted he may be but this really means very little when it comes down to it. Much as I disagree with Scaruffi on many other matters, I think he is worth quoting on this point because I sincerely agree with the sentiment - "There is a difference, in my opinion, between a juggler and an artist. If the playing is barely passable, but it delivers a lot of emotion, that musician is a genius." Players such as Fred Frith, Jimi Hendrix, John Fahey, Sonny Sharrock, Joe Pass (okay so maybe I'm moving out of the 'rock' sphere a little now...) are what I would deem to be geniuses because they play with passion, creativity etc. whilst also retaining a sufficient degree of technical proficiency in order to express themselves adequately. Malmsteen's playing, on the other hand, is (to me) technical wank of the worst kind. It is utter musical masturbation, which I find not only entirely uninteresting but even quite repulsive.
And I still don't find the popularity of a particular player to be any indication of greatness. A whole host of other factors come in to play to decide whether a particular thing is popular quite apart from its 'likability'.

crash_override 02-23-2009 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Elastic Man (Post 601677)
As for Malmsteen... I stand by what I said before. His playing is just embarrassing.

:laughing: Good one.

No I got you, I know where you're coming from. You just are straying away from the topic. Greatest Rock Guitarists, and you prefer whining and grooving over shredding. Thats cool. I dig both.

Terrible Lizard 02-23-2009 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Elastic Man (Post 601677)
John Fahey

:thumb:

Now you're talking.

But Malmsteen has his uses, especially on long drives through the city.

lucifer_sam 02-23-2009 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Elastic Man (Post 601677)
Maybe I overreacted. It's certainly not the worst list I've ever seen but, at the same time, it's far from the best. I just get a little frustrated when someone puts so much time and effort into compiling such a list and I feel like I've learnt nothing from reading it. In fact it just seems like repetition of things I've disagreed with before, which can be tedious. Oh well.
As for Malmsteen... I stand by what I said before. His playing is just embarrassing. Technically gifted he may be but this really means very little when it comes down to it. Much as I disagree with Scaruffi on many other matters, I think he is worth quoting on this point because I sincerely agree with the sentiment - "There is a difference, in my opinion, between a juggler and an artist. If the playing is barely passable, but it delivers a lot of emotion, that musician is a genius." Players such as Fred Frith, Jimi Hendrix, John Fahey, Sonny Sharrock, Joe Pass (okay so maybe I'm moving out of the 'rock' sphere a little now...) are what I would deem to be geniuses because they play with passion, creativity etc. whilst also retaining a sufficient degree of technical proficiency in order to express themselves adequately. Malmsteen's playing, on the other hand, is (to me) technical wank of the worst kind. It is utter musical masturbation, which I find not only entirely uninteresting but even quite repulsive.
And I still don't find the popularity of a particular player to be any indication of greatness. A whole host of other factors come in to play to decide whether a particular thing is popular quite apart from its 'likability'.

Well spoken but I think the appearance of Malmsteen at all is a testament to boo boo's endurance of idiots that love him. As far as I know he's not a fan of Yngwie at all and probably included him just so that the kiddies wouldn't bitch.

Personally I wouldn't give two shits if he caught AIDS and died.

crash_override 02-23-2009 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 602009)
Well spoken but I think the appearance of Malmsteen at all is a testament to boo boo's endurance of idiots that love him. As far as I know he's not a fan of Yngwie at all and probably included him just so that the kiddies wouldn't bitch.

Personally I wouldn't give two shits if he caught AIDS and died.

Ahh, a true Malmsteen fan.

dac 02-23-2009 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 602009)
Well spoken but I think the appearance of Malmsteen at all is a testament to boo boo's endurance of idiots that love him. As far as I know he's not a fan of Yngwie at all and probably included him just so that the kiddies wouldn't bitch.

Personally I wouldn't give two shits if he caught AIDS and died.

lucifer sam for president 2012.

crash_override 02-23-2009 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dac (Post 602104)
lucifer sam for president 2012.

Yeah I agree. I mean I could care less about foreign and economic policies.... I'm voting for the guy who hates Malmsteen and hopes he dies.

This is kind of amusing actually.

Elastic Man 02-24-2009 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 602009)

Personally I wouldn't give two shits if he caught AIDS and died.

Brilliant.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terrible Lizard (Post 601970)
:thumb:

Now you're talking.

Another John Fahey fan! Great! I was hesitant in mentioning him since he's not really a 'rock' guitarist as such but it's always nice to speak to another fan.

FaSho 02-24-2009 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 602151)
Yeah I agree. I mean I could care less about foreign and economic policies.... I'm voting for the guy who hates Malmsteen and hopes he dies.

^Campaign slogan.

crash_override 02-24-2009 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FaSho (Post 602537)
^Campaign slogan.

Exactly, it's the future of politics really.

bobiras 02-25-2009 04:30 AM

thanks

lespaul94 02-25-2009 09:18 AM

i think u missed:
joe satriani
steve vai
mick thomson
synyster gates
i might just notve seen em though

Mojo 02-25-2009 09:50 AM

Synyster Gates and Mick Thompson wouldnt be on my list either but Vai and Satch are on the list.


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