Guns N' Roses (Yes and Chinese Democracy, so don't make other threads on it.) (ticket, metal)

[draven]

Originally Posted by LedZepStu

OOOOOOOOOOH YOU DIDNT JUST SAY GnR WERE THE BIGGEST BAND SINCE THE BEATLES.... two words for you...LED-ZEPPELIN. 200 million album sales worldwide. 117.5 album sales in the US, 3 top 10 albums at one time, 7 consecutive #1 albums. 22 million in the US for led zeppelin IV- 4th biggest album of all time in the US. GnR do not come anywhere close to this band. pink floyd were also MUCH bigger. sorry, i know i said i wouldnt reply anmore, but i couldnt resist

You really still have not learned to read yet have you? It’s really a sad thing. Gnr were just as big if not bigger in the early 90s than Led Zeppelin was in the 70s, I am sorry to say. Zeppelin didn’t play in front of 7 million people in a 3-year stretch. Again for album sales, gnr only really have 3 studio albums of original material plus an EP yet they sold over 60 million albums world wide, where as LZ had about 10 studio albums thus more albums sold. Do the math.

Also gnr did something zeppelin never did, they had two albums in the top 5 at the same time and gnr did it twice. Again gnr has the biggest selling debute album ever by a rock band 15m more than led zeppelins debute album.

Like I said before, you cannot just go by album sales, go by touring and all that other stuff you fail to look at. You are totally ignoring everything else oh but that is right, that wouldn’t make your argument valid now would it?
Bring up their touring, and the other stuff and you will see, but I am sure you will not since it would prove that I am correct.

You really have no clue how big guns n roses were when the albums dropped but that is ok its your ignorance.

I still find it funny that you lost terribly to your original argument and now you are trying to turn this into something else.

[draven]

Originally Posted by adidasss

well this argument stretched for longer then it should've...congrats draven, you are the supreme ruler of the universe...but cobain was a bigger, more talented artist then rose...and i'm sure that cobain wouldn't have tried a pitifull comeback like rose did...if he didn't create great music any more he would have retreated gracefully...i'd imagine...and axl is nothing without slash, while nirvana is nothing without cobain, he WAS nirvana...thread closed!

Yep it was failed, He headlined Rock n Rio III in 2001 the biggest fesivial in the world and was asked to do it again last year but didn't play it because BH left.

When Chinese Democracy comes out it will be huge, don't you worry. As for Axls pityful comeback, yet I guess selling out MSG in 15 mins and selling out other huge cities like boston and pitt is bad. And that was with no album or promotion. The fact is gnr sold more tix to their shows than VR has on their tours.

It will sell over 10m world wide without a problem.

[Trauma]

draven, you are an a$$hole with some kind of Axl Rose fetish, go ahead and leave.
I'm not posting in here anymore.

[draven]

Next time you claim something make sure you can back it up. I am sorry I made a fool of you and the other guy for thinking nirvana was bigger than gnr.

[adidasss]

Originally Posted by draven

It will sell over 10m world wide without a problem.

no way, their time has passed...they'll never be as big, it's impossible, nobody's done it and they wont either...

[draven]

Originally Posted by adidasss

no way, their time has passed...they'll never be as big, it's impossible, nobody's done it and they wont either...

You do know the gnr GHs album was the 10th best selling album in the world in 2004 right?

The new gnr wont be as big as they were before but they will be one of the biggest bands in the world once again, their new stuff is better than 90% of the crap on the radio. Madagascar alone would be a huge hit.

[Sneer]

Originally Posted by draven

You really still have not learned to read yet have you? It’s really a sad thing. Gnr were just as big if not bigger in the early 90s than Led Zeppelin was in the 70s, I am sorry to say. Zeppelin didn’t play in front of 7 million people in a 3-year stretch. Again for album sales, gnr only really have 3 studio albums of original material plus an EP yet they sold over 60 million albums world wide, where as LZ had about 10 studio albums thus more albums sold. Do the math.

Also gnr did something zeppelin never did, they had two albums in the top 5 at the same time and gnr did it twice. Again gnr has the biggest selling debute album ever by a rock band 15m more than led zeppelins debute album.

Like I said before, you cannot just go by album sales, go by touring and all that other stuff you fail to look at. You are totally ignoring everything else oh but that is right, that wouldn’t make your argument valid now would it?
Bring up their touring, and the other stuff and you will see, but I am sure you will not since it would prove that I am correct.

You really have no clue how big guns n roses were when the albums dropped but that is ok its your ignorance.

I still find it funny that you lost terribly to your original argument and now you are trying to turn this into something else.

the fact is, zeppelin have a much more impressive back catalogue then GnR. their career spanned 12 years producing 9 studio albums, 8 of which were number one. a 2.5 million capacity audience three nights in a row isnt bad going either. anyway you look at it, zeppelins career is a LOT more distinguished and generally grander than GnR, 8 classics against 1 classic and 2 average albums isnt even a contest. your only saying "you cant only go by album sales" because you know GnR dont compare to zep in terms of album sales. how you can say GnR were bigger then zeppelin just baffles me. axl and co were the biggest in the world for a couple of years- zeppelin were the biggest band in the world for near enough a decade. a piece of advice, stop criticising my argument and take a look at your own, it isnt too great you know. now, i well and truely am finished with you.

[Sneer]

Originally Posted by draven

You do know the gnr GHs album was the 10th best selling album in the world in 2004 right?

The new gnr wont be as big as they were before but they will be one of the biggest bands in the world once again, their new stuff is better than 90% of the crap on the radio. Madagascar alone would be a huge hit.

you deluded, poor individual.

[draven]

Originally Posted by LedZepStu

the fact is, zeppelin have a much more impressive back catalogue then GnR. their career spanned 12 years producing 9 studio albums, 8 of which were number one. a 2.5 million capacity audience three nights in a row isnt bad going either. anyway you look at it, zeppelins career is a LOT more distinguished and generally grander than GnR, 8 classics against 1 classic and 2 average albums isnt even a contest. your only saying "you cant only go by album sales" because you know GnR dont compare to zep in terms of album sales. how you can say GnR were bigger then zeppelin just baffles me. axl and co were the biggest in the world for a couple of years- zeppelin were the biggest band in the world for near enough a decade. a piece of advice, stop criticising my argument and take a look at your own, it isnt too great you know. now, i well and truely am finished with you.

Again you have not learned how to read yet, I said you cant go by just albums sales alone. You do know what that means right? As for you claiming the UYIs were average, if you really think that you are really have no clue what you are talking about.

[draven]

Originally Posted by draven

Again you have not learned how to read yet, I said you cant go by just albums sales alone. You do know what that means right? As for you claiming the UYIs were average, if you really think that you are really have no clue what you are talking about.

Originally Posted by LedZepStu

you deluded, poor individual.

I am not going to even throw more stats at you but if you look at world album sales in 2004 AFD and the UYIs were in the top ten in a lot of countries (not the USA).

Gnr are going to headline the next rock n rio in 2006, yeah but they still wont be huge. You will see, dont worry.